This isn't just about the Matthew Johns thing, there was a documentary on Monday night that raised issues abuot a whole load of incidents. I posted a thread abuot it forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=409243 There's been a constant stream of stories in the Aussie press all week with some choice comments from players. I think this'll rumble on for a while.

This isn't just about the Matthew Johns thing, there was a documentary on Monday night that raised issues abuot a whole load of incidents. I posted a thread abuot it forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=409243 There's been a constant stream of stories in the Aussie press all week with some choice comments from players. I think this'll rumble on for a while.

I don't see it as 'morally wrong' as Conroy states. If she wants 6 players getting involved in her, thats her choice.

What I struggle with is this womans need to cash in now while the questions over the drink culture exist. It will lead to players losing a lot of their freedom.

I feel sorry for Matt. He was big enough to own up to his wife 7 years ago and they worked together to make things right between them. Now, 7 years later, someone wants to cash in and he loses his career and will have to work on his relationship again.

The documentary is available, in full on youtube if you missed it. Really good watch.

Right....living in Australia ive seen all this from the start to where we are now...so here goes!

The woman in question was bragging about her exploits to numerous hotel staff for up to 6 days after the event, at no time during her stay in the hotel did she show she was distressed in any way.

If...and thats a big if....she didnt do this to cash in, then prove it, give the money to a charity for abused women...that way she is giving back to the people she is supposidly creating this awarness for!

She has just cashed in on Matty Johns becuase he is the one worth the money, the fact that one of the players still plays for west tigers has not even occured to her!

She started as the victim, but slowly people are begining to realise that she willing took part in all of this, and is basically just after the money.

I can see why channel 9 have taken him off the air, but, the must realise after mattys interview the other night that it will teach kids more of a lesson seeing that rather then not having him on the TV.

Don't think she went back to their room to play tiddly winks. She knew what was going to happen and was consentual with it. Don't see a problem myself, just another tart after a nice payday.

I'm not too sure about the consent thing myself. Who's word do we have that she consented? Errrr well.... the players involved in the incident. To quote a famous line from a previous scandal "He would say that wouldn't he?" They're hardly likely to stand up and say they raped her are they, particularly given that they aren't even prepared to admit who they are.

A lad I went to school with had a similar situation in the past. A girl consented at a party while they were both drunk, he went up did the business, and then slipped off in the morning.

She woke up wracked with regret and cried rape.

What happened to him after she cried rape ?

Hey forget Rogues love life, you where in sydney in 2002...and I call seeing a photo of you wearing a sharks shirt...Can you say where you where on the night in question???

Eventually the charges were dropped after people pointed out she had instigated them "heading upstairs." But on a more personal level he was almost destroyed. He was almost cast out of school (which eventually he droppped out of a week before taking his A-Levels). He went through a period of self harm and drug abuse.

For a long time, he struggled before having the balls to get up and start education again.

Awesome choice of words there pal.

That night, well I was "in her".

Has the girl in this case claimed that there was no consent? I've not seen anything saying that she has, although I'll admit I've not trawled through all of the stories.

I'd be looking at the bit where she was bragging to people in the hotel for days afterwards. Not many people would go bragging they've just been raped by 6 blokes ...