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Quote: Ashmeister "Up there with Rikki Sheriffe as the shi*est winger in super league. Caught out of position for a number of try's this season. All it takes is one good pass down Ade's side from the oppositions half back and the team are away.

Funny how people call Meli for being slow. Gardner is the sloth, he cant turn for a kick to save his life. Absolute waste of a shirt.'"

Could have told you that ages ago.

He should never be anywhere near an international shirt again.

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I reckon that we have 2 of the worst wingers in SL at the moment, none are good enough and both get caught out far too easily. Gardner is always too far in field off his wing and isn't fast enough, Meli is just a lazy womans thing and a total waste of a shirt. Unfortunately we aint got any replacements so we have to stick with these 2.

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Quote: Ashmeister "Up there with Rikki Sheriffe as the shi*est winger in super league. Caught out of position for a number of try's this season. All it takes is one good pass down Ade's side from the oppositions half back and the team are away.

Funny how people call Meli for being slow. Gardner is the sloth, he cant turn for a kick to save his life. Absolute waste of a shirt.'"


You just dont get it do you - that is probably the hardest decision required from a winger - does he stay with his man and in the line - or drop back a little and leave a space infront of him to cover the kick.
Whatever decision he makes then there are always people like you who will condemn him for it.
Kickers have got so good at this now that it is almost an impossible task - case in point (in the Wigan game) when Gardner was off and Gidley was covering his position EXACTLY the same thing happened to him, he was no more able to make the right decision than Gardner was.
Maybe the player who is playing fullback at the time should be much further towards the corner making the decision from the winger easier.

Oh and singling out a player for what was an atrocious display from all players? Its a team sport and the mistakes of another player can make the player playing in the most exposed positions, look worse than he actually is.
Not all players will be superstars but the idea of a team sport is you play to each others strengths and compensate for other players weaknesses.

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I've seen a pint of milk turn quicker than Gardner. My wife would have dealt better with getting the ball out of play for the Richards try

Meli was at fault for the first try. If you are not going to contest for the ball at least clamp the man when he catches it or put him off tapping it back.

Our wingers seem to lose confidence very quickly. I still remember Gardners performance in the 2005 CC Semi.

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Quote: NickyKiss "We'll loan you Ainscough if you want...............he could do with some gametime at a superleague club as it looks like he'll be struggling for it here
Yes,yet another British player cast aside for Aussies by Wigan

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It is to do with the positioning of players inside Ade.
Very often he is left alone in a 2/3 on 1 situation because Longy, Flannery or Gidley have rushed inside.

That said, he looks very very low on confidence and is to blame for Richards try but it didnt really have an effect in the game as it was slipping away already.

Been a few weeks since he has scored isnt it? Maybe a couple of tries will pick him up.

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Quote: foleywire "eh up lost a game have ya'"


great post.

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Quote: Saint from Prestwich "Yes,yet another British player cast aside for Aussies by Wigan'"


Absolute Bullocks.

Fact is Gardner can outjump him, as Blanch did. Had you had a side to kick to then the game may have been a different story.

Ainscough is a fantastic prospect, but scoring four tries does not give you a divine right to play. If I was dropped by my coach and told to work on something, then I'll work on it, not say "but what about such a game, I scored" Ainscough isn't the person saying this, fans are. He may score tries but a winger agianst you lot HAS to be much more than that. Especially if Gidley is running at you.

It's a massive decision choosing our back line at the minute. Someone who doesn't deserve to be dropped has to be dropped, and it ain't gona be Pat.

I suggest you find out what your talking about before you starting criticising the coach who out schemed you.

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Quote: Sale Moor Saint "No he aint an idiot at all.
what he eant was it's easy to blame Gardner , but the legend that is Graham(MOS) is falling far short of where he should be.
Perhaps if he stopped beleiving his own press kept his gob shut & got back to playing Rl he would be better off.
he questions every decision squealls when he's tackled, accept it & play the ball. i know he's a crackin playe & i'll get slaughteres for this but so what,'"


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Quote: Batesy "Absolute Bullocks.

Fact is Gardner can outjump him, as Blanch did. Had you had a side to kick to then the game may have been a different story.

Ainscough is a fantastic prospect, but scoring four tries does not give you a divine right to play. If I was dropped by my coach and told to work on something, then I'll work on it, not say "but what about such a game, I scored" Ainscough isn't the person saying this, fans are. He may score tries but a winger agianst you lot HAS to be much more than that. Especially if Gidley is running at you.

It's a massive decision choosing our back line at the minute. Someone who doesn't deserve to be dropped has to be dropped, and it ain't gona be Pat.

I suggest you find out what your talking about before you starting criticising the coach who out schemed you.'"


What is absolute bullocks is this insistence from the Goons that they are somehow better than us and that Noble masterminded the best ever RL performance at the weekend. What actually happened is that a Saints side running on empty were as flat as a pancake and Wigan capitalised on it. We would probably have lost to any side in SL at the weekend, bar possibly Celtic.

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Quote: Saddened! "What is absolute bullocks is this insistence from the Goons that they are somehow better than us and that Noble masterminded the best ever RL performance at the weekend. What actually happened is that a Saints side running on empty were as flat as a pancake and Wigan capitalised on it. We would probably have lost to any side in SL at the weekend, bar possibly Celtic.'"


Saints looked really weary from the off.

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Quote: Saddened! "What is absolute bullocks is this insistence from the Goons that they are somehow better than us and that Noble masterminded the best ever RL performance at the weekend. What actually happened is that a Saints side running on empty were as flat as a pancake and Wigan capitalised on it. We would probably have lost to any side in SL at the weekend, bar possibly Celtic.'"

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St. Etrigan has got it spot on in his/her post.

Gardner don't know if to drop back or stay in the line coz the other team always has 2 man overlap.

Does he drop back and leave a massive overlap?

Does he join the line and number up but risk the kick?

It all boils down to our outside defence not numbering up.

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Quote: St pete "St. Etrigan has got it spot on in his/her post.

Gardner don't know if to drop back or stay in the line coz the other team always has 2 man overlap.

Does he drop back and leave a massive overlap?

Does he join the line and number up but risk the kick?

It all boils down to our outside defence not numbering up.'"

At least if he is the line, Wellens is in behind, covering the kick.

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Quote: ~ No1 Saints Fan ~ "At least if he is the line, Wellens is in behind, covering the kick.'"


Don't know if you ever played the game but wingers are taught at the age of 7 to drop back on last tackle.

In the modern game they at times drop back on 4th.

Wello can't cover rite behind the winger as he has his own ground to cover.

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