Longy made his kicks.

I am quite offended by that.

In what way am I trolling? He didn't play well at all, I've not written him off or suggested he's pants have I?

And to Tobias, stop taking it to heart. It tears you apart that I criticise highly trained professional athletes? Get a grip. I spend a few grand a year 'supporting' Saints, so I think I am entitled to say it as it is on the forum.

You are entitled to your [iopinion[/i I think a lot on here disagree that you say it as it is - and there's a world of difference in that.

I agree with saddened.

People are entitled to their opinions. However he is a young lad making his way (out of position) and mistakes are expected to be made.

People starting threads slating his performance isent going to help (he reads these boards).

FWIW his a fantastic talent who will make it.

Jesuite H Kirshna. This again.

IFhe reads the boards, he has to expect to be bagged, like Tyrer getting his knickers in a twist for being called a turnstyle.

He should use posts that "cause offence" to help himself better his game. Use it as inspiration.

If he gets wound up reading these, he is going to struggle going to big away games were the fans will really be on him.

Well tbh the lad isnt a winger and everyone knows it - people forget that positional play as a winger is bloody hard work at times. He did a couple of things that showed lack of experience (like the pass that was intercepted). Some of the lost ball was down to niggling in the tackle and again a bit of getting caught out by experienced pro's. For me he did ok and I'd love to see him get a bit of time at 6 with Pryce moving to 13 during a game. With young lads it's all about getting them the experience and hoping they make the step up but only time will tell.

You are indeed allowed an opinion, and after reading your diatribe I've come to the conclusion (and I'm sure I'm not alone in this) that you really don't have a clue what you are talking about.

... and for what it is worth, supporting a team is a lot more than just paying your money over.

Wheeler was on a hiding to nothing last nght on that wing. Simply compare the number of times he touched the ball compared to Gardener. Playing out of position is difficult, but when the ball hardly comes your way it is difficult to 'stay in the game' so to speak, and you will always exect a mistake from a young player in such circumstances.

You personally seem to bag any potential player at every oppotunity. I seem to remember you having a field day with Tyrer.

It's common sense. Why criticise a 19 year old lad playing out of position ? Infact i dont think i've ever seen him play on the wing in any youth games. So it's not like he as a bit of experiance there.

It's the experiance players that are not performing at the minute.

Im sure Saddened's thrilled.

How did he have a bad game?

Because he knocked on and passed inside to a man in support but a Salford player got in between them?
If thats the criteria for having a bad game then I guess all 17 had a bad game since they all made some mistake or other.

Try focusing on what he did well - his footwork for the "no-try" was amazing, his break before his mis guided pass was also top drawer.

He wasnt leaky in defence and there is no way he gets critisism from me about losing a ball in the air to an established SL player who is about 6 inches taller than him.

I do have to wonder why this guy is now getting some stick - I have been nothing but impressed with him in his few appearances

In that case I'd advise him to stop.

Sorry if I missed it, but why didn't Armstrong play? I didn't hear about him getting a knock or anything. Seems strange to play a young stand-off there instead.