We need more than a few squad tweaks.

I think people need to be careful about putting too much hope in Brown. He's done great things with Hudds. Potter did great things with Catalan. Lots of people are now saying Potter was a poor coach at Saints. Daniel Anderson was a great coach for us but he was fired by other clubs. Just because Brown has done wonders with Hudds does not mean he will have the same impact on a Saints team. I think people need to be realistic.

I wasn't papering over the cracks. I thought I was pretty clear in saying that we are basically rudderless with coaches thrown in at the deep end and yet we were only fourteen points behind them. What happens when we're not rudderless with a coach that hasn't been thrown in at the deep end?

It doesn't take a genius to recognise that we do not need a wholesale clear out like some lunatics on both side of Billinge appear to be arguing. All I'm hearing from several of our fans is "If he isn't scoring 90m tries or winning man of the match every week" then replace him. There are areas in need of strengthening but we are not the Ian Millward era Wigoon as some people are trying to suggest.

A Wigan Saints derby will look like wrestlemania next year with Brown in charge, i think Brown will have the bottle to finally put some players to pasture too.

I hope so, and i want some aggresion back in our pack

At least at Hudds you can see he's promoting the kids and he's getting in some shrewd signings, Luke George for instance, he personally didn't think he'd cut it at Giants but he's doing well.

I like Brown and there's a chance some of his better players might come with him, he certainly gets a lot out of his squads.

I did say both teams were poor. Don't kid yourself that you played poorly and we didn't. I don't think either side will play as poorly at the Etihad in a couple of weeks time, but I still expect us to win there given the current line ups of the teams.

Fair enough if most of you think coaching is the only difference. We are 'well drilled' and you are not. I think it has more to do with the personnel of the teams. After all we are coached by a clueless ape.