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| Quote: Wire_In_The_Blood "icon_iamwithstupid.gif
Hes played against the Aussies and Kiwis and gave a very decent account of himself, before going off injured in the Final and then England falling to pieces after that.
Warrington have all these players that are the best players in the league, yet they have only beat one team in the top 4 all season, and they aren't top of the league. How can that be possible.
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| Quote: Wire_74 "Fair enough
Heres Shenton compared to an England centre palying Rugby for a team second from bottom. Again the stats don't favour Shenton and favour Clubb alot more.
Does this mean Shentons England's fourth best centre.
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Do they? They show that Clubb has had a lot more ball than Shenton. But he has scored fewer tries and missed more tackles.
I think most Saints fans are aware that they are getting a work in progress with Shenton, and are quietly pleased about it. All the panicking about who the best centre is seems to be coming from Warrington, which is, perhaps, telling.
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| Warrington offered him more money but he chose saints.
Obvioulsy Tony Smith doesnt rate the centres he already has....
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| Quote: Saint_Marc "Warrington offered him more money but he chose saints.
Obvioulsy Tony Smith doesnt rate the centres he already has....'"
Where has this been comfirmed?
I very much doubt that is true considering we have three great centres already and a very hot prospect in Rhys Evans coming through the ranks.
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| Quote: Wire_In_The_Blood "Shenton was very very quiet, and that was against France god help him if he makes the team against the Aussies or the Kiwis.'"
Let me take you back to the Four Nations final, last November. England outplaying the Aussies up until the hour mark. Shenton comes off injured after a severe clash of heads, and Australia score 4 or 5 tries all down the side Shenton would have been. A narrow England lead becomes a comfortable Australian victory.
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| Quote: Wire_74 "Where has this been comfirmed?'"
So if you are such a strong believer in the stats and how it categorically proves Bridge is better than Shenton, do you also believe Graham's show how much better a prop he's always been than Morley?
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| Quote: Wire_74 "Agree completely - I think the stats prove Bridge is better'" Hasn't bridge played alot of games in other positions, like scrum half?
You seem very determined to tell us how much better your players are than ours.
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| I think the comments prove what a quality 'young british' centre were getting. In a quality side and as he develops physically he'll undoubtedly improve.
With the pack he'll be playing behind next year let's see the stats in 12 months time!
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| It's a petty argument, but it's also a pointless one as senior and gleeson are still better than the lot of them.
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| Quote: Smurf "It's a petty argument, '" it is, but for all those who want to throw mud at us for it, judge him on how he plays when (and if) he pulls on a Saints jersey.
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| Gleeson
Maybe last year did you not watch him last Friday? Atkins pwned him.
And Senior - no way he's gone backwards.
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| The signing of Shenton reminds me of when we signed Gleeson from Hudds.
A half decent player with a lot of potential,personally I reckon he will be an excellent signing for Saints.
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| Having watched Shenton most of his career this season hasn't been his best. But there is no doubt in my mind that Saints have got themselves a good one there. Shentons problems this year have probably been down to a couple of injuries and the lack of a scrum half getting the ball his way. He's been moved from his favoured left centre position this year and not have a regular wing partnership would have hindered him.
I think Shenton is a better player than Gleeson was when he signed for Saints. He is a honest grafter that gets on with his job without all the hype, tattoos and silly hair styles that curtain other centres have to bring attention to themselves.
I will continue to cheer him on when he's on TV and look forward to seeing him improve over the years to come.
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| Quote: Smurf "It's a petty argument, but it's also a pointless one as senior and gleeson are still better than the lot of them.'"
Gleeson can be, when he can be bothered. Unfortunately, he hasn't been bothered for about three years.
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| No, I'm sorry. Gleeson was pants from the minute he got caught betting on a Bradford win.
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