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| Quote: Mugwump "You praise the opposition when your side plays well and you still lose. Why praise them when you've played badly? All they've done is walk through an open door.'"
2 things underlining EVERYTHING in your POSTS? People can read.
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| Quote: St pete "When leeds put a score on us like last week then you've got to paraise them. We didn't lose it, they won it. They was better in every department.'"
As much as they were better throughout, the major difference was how badly we started. If after 18 minutes you are 18-0 down and have completed 1 set from 6, that's us losing it IMO.
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44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
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| Quote: Blobbynator "I know what you're saying, and KC does say some bizarre things at times, but after we've been whooped like that, the last thing I want to hear from our coach is how awesome Leeds were.'"
To be fair the leeds post match interview was the best he has done as he actully said what needed saying regarding how "garbage" we was.
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| Quote: St pete "To be fair the leeds post match interview was the best he has done as he actually said what needed saying regarding how "garbage" we was.'"
It was. For the first time I saw a flash of anger in his eyes instead of the smug, self satisfied, goofy look I have become accustomed to. Keep it up KC - let's hope we see a reaction later.
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44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
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| Quote: Allez "It was. For the first time I saw a flash of anger in his eyes instead of the smug, self satisfied, goofy look I have become accustomed to. Keep it up KC - let's hope we see a reaction later.'"
KC Is a very calm softly spoken guy. I can't ever seeing him really losing his rag as its not in him. He was same as player. He was tough and hard but very quite and always calm.
It was nice to see him mention senior players he wasn't happy with, in the past it's been the younger guys he's called out.
Like I said, the coaching job came a year early and KC knew last July that he would most probably be first team coach so he's also inexperienced talking as a coach on live TV.
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| Quote: St pete "KC Is a very calm softly spoken guy. I can't ever seeing him really losing his rag as its not in him. He was same as player. He was tough and hard but very quite and always calm.
It was nice to see him mention senior players he wasn't happy with, in the past it's been the younger guys he's called out.
Like I said, the coaching job came a year early and KC knew last July that he would most probably be first team coach so he's also inexperienced talking as a coach on live TV.'"
There is no doubt that his calm disposition is an attribute. I just hate any coach calling out any players publicly. The Press work is communication and expectation management.
What any coach thinks of a player is for the sheds and the training ground. No exceptions.
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| Quote: Allez "There is no doubt that his calm disposition is an attribute. I just hate any coach calling out any players publicly. The Press work is communication and expectation management.
What any coach thinks of a player is for the sheds and the training ground. No exceptions.'"
Some players might respond better to public criticism?
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| Quote: Allez "2 thingsunderlining EVERYTHING in your POSTS? People can read.'"
Why? Because IT GETS ON YOUR NERVES.
DEAL WITH IT.
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "Of course, finding a way to monetise any better RL writing is the main stumbling block between me and this potential career-change....'"
You are looking at this from entirely the wrong perspective. As the line goes in Field of Dreams, [i"Build it and they will come"[/i. How much is a domain name, web space and a MYSQL database on which to run some kind of open source blogging software - £70 per year?
If you are really interested go for it. There's such a paucity of writing talent in RL anything decent will be wolfed down like free doughnuts. Good content sells itself. Once you become established then you look at income streams. Although don't expect to become a millionaire. When me and Fish started RLFANS we never thought we'd make a penny out of it. Nowadays we make a bit through sponsorship. But we've never been particularly great at selling RLFANS.
Phil Clarke thought he'd become a multi-millionaire with his Rugbee.com but he made the mistake of investing a lot of capital up front in snazzy graphics and custom-written content management without having a shred of content to sell. Unsurprisingly it folded in a very short space of time.
My advice to anyone thinking along such lines is to stay away from match reports. Let the league rags handle that stuff. Look instead at writing, say, 1000-3000 word in-depth articles on particular aspects of the game. There's too much superficial stuff written these days. You could even do player interviews - but something substantial in which you really get an idea of who the player is, his thoughts on the game, stories he has to tell.
Take someone such as Alex Murphy, for example. A guy like that is CRYING OUT for someone bear witness to all the things he saw and did in the game. I'd love to sit him down infront of a camera for a week or two and simply record all the interesting things he has to say.
There's so much CONTENT out there which is fading from memory and will ultimately be lost unless people get off their asses and record it.
If you or anyone else is really interested I'll give you all the publicity you can handle through this site. I'd love to do it.
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| But is there a sufficient audience amongst RL supporters for the more in-depth prose you suggest? I know one shouldn't judge the entire supporter base from the Rugby Leaguer Readers' Letters page, but.....
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "But is there a sufficient audience amongst RL supporters for the more in-depth prose you suggest? I know one shouldn't judge the entire supporter base from the Rugby Leaguer Readers' Letters page, but.....'"
Well, it's significant. And it's growing. You've just got to go for it. As I've said, there's always an audience for quality. As for money - I don't know. I rarely talk about my involvement with RLFANS in public. When I do and I mention that this site gets more traffic than Virgin Rail it's amazing how often the first response is, [i"I bet you make loads"[/i. People look at me like I've just dropped down from Mars when I tell them that I was never really motivated by money. We set up RLFANS because we loved the game and people needed a forum to discuss it because most of the club boards were being closed down over legal issues. Maybe we could have scraped a full-time living out of this site if we'd really put the hard sell on. But I'd hate myself for doing it.
To be honest, I wish more fans would embrace YouTube. All you need these days is a decent smartphone, some open source video editing software and a big dose of imagination and commitment. Anyone can set up a Rugby League discussion channel.
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| Quote: Mugwump "Why? Because IT GETS ON YOUR NERVES.
DEAL WITH IT.'"
You're too predictable to get on my nerves.
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| Quote: Allez "You're too predictable to get on my nerves.'"
And you're too irrelevant for me to care.
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52916_1378593744.jpg A pint of sweat, saves a gallon of blood. - George S. Patton
In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity. - Winston Churchill
It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. - General Douglas MacArthur
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| And both of you are acting like 5 year olds in the playground!!!!!!!
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| Quote: Top Saint "And both of you are acting like 5 year olds in the playground!!!!!!!'"
Childishness is the plutonium at the heart of the Internet. Without such the lights would go out and we'd all be eating out of cans.
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