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| With that clip it looks as though the hand came in first before the shoulder hits the head.
So technically the charge from the RFL could be wrong, as the ruling says INITIAL direct contact, which in this case the initial contact was by hand, direct contact shoulder.
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| This thread is making me laugh. Everyone was up in arms when Moon shoulder charged Percy to the head a few weeks back. Leeds fans were busy justifying their player's foul play. Now here are Saints fans justifying their player's foul play. So funny!
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| Quote: SaintsFan "This thread is making me laugh. Everyone was up in arms when Moon shoulder charged Percy to the head a few weeks back. Leeds fans were busy justifying their player's foul play. Now here are Saints fans justifying their player's foul play. So funny!'"
But the two challenges were very different. Surely you can see that?
Walmsley clearly attempted to make a proper tackle with his arms out. Moon didn't.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "This thread is making me laugh. Everyone was up in arms when Moon shoulder charged Percy to the head a few weeks back. Leeds fans were busy justifying their player's foul play. Now here are Saints fans justifying their player's foul play. So funny!'"
Nobody's justifying it, just pointing out that it's not a shoulder charge and not as bad as what Moon did.
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| Walmsley deserves the same ban as Moon, still wasn't a shoulder charge though.
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "But the two challenges were very different. Surely you can see that?
Walmsley clearly attempted to make a proper tackle with his arms out. Moon didn't.'"
The thing is though he didn't. His right arm was nowhere near Robinson. Only his left arm comes in after he has already made contact. I watched the match back last night and Sky slowed it all down and zoomed in. I looked out for the arms.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "The thing is though he didn't. His right arm was nowhere near Robinson. Only his left arm comes in after he has already made contact. I watched the match back last night and Sky slowed it all down and zoomed in. I looked out for the arms.'"
You've got it spectacularly wrong.
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "You've got it spectacularly wrong.'"
And in other news rain is wet.
For what its worth, Ill be amazed if he doesn't get two games, but agree the definition of a shoulder charge needs tidying up. Moon came in third man after the tackle was effected, same charge but light years difference in similarity.
One thing that grates is the inconsistency of the panel. Some of the tackles & incidents in the Wigan v Wire game bordered on assault never mind a reckless challenge.
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| To be honest, he hasn't set the world alight for a while, so losing him won't be the end of the world. I'd be more concerned is it was Amor. Couple of weeks rest, comes back better for the final, winners all round
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| It would be typical of the RFL to have got the charge completely wrong but to ban him despite the technicality.
The thought of Clark running at Walmsley around the ruck makes me shudder in any case. Get Thompson in there if he is banned.
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| Quote: SFW "It would be typical of the RFL to have got the charge completely wrong but to ban him despite the technicality.
The thought of Clark running at Walmsley around the ruck makes me shudder in any case. Get Thompson in there if he is banned.'"
Thompson should be in there even if walmsley was playing. He has that enthusiastic energy and commitment that certain other players lack.
Thompson would be in my 17 every week
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| Me too, I can understand if he's being held back a little but it's been a real impressive year for him. Now is the time to get our best players in the team and I think he's good enough.
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| Quote: St pete "Thompson should be in there even if walmsley was playing. He has that enthusiastic energy and commitment that certain other players lack.
Thompson would be in my 17 every week'"
I'd go with that. I've not seen Laffranchi do anything to justify his place in the side ahead of Thompson.
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| Quote: SFW "It would be typical of the RFL to have got the charge completely wrong but to ban him despite the technicality.
The thought of Clark running at Walmsley around the ruck makes me shudder in any case. Get Thompson in there if he is banned.'"
Walmsley has looked out of condition for quite a few games now, if we had the fitter version like the beginning of the season he would have got to Luke Robinson a second earlier and would have legally splattered him.
I would play Sav and Thompson ahead of Walmsley and Lefranc.
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| I like Boof and I think he is criminally under-rated by many, especially defensively. I sense he isn't popular amongst fans as he is a quota player and expectations are somewhat higher for him but he is an important player for us.
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