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Quote: McClennan "I'd have Shenton, Meli, Soliola and Wheeler ahead of him. That's four players which is pretty damn good if we only have one centre at the club.'"


Meli is winger
Sia is backrow
Wheeler is a crock

The point is, we only have one specialist centre in shenton. Carmont is a very good solid safe centre.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Really? Here's the top ten try scorers for 2011 so far, according to engage

Erm according to rlEngagerl there are seven of those players who are in the top 25 try scorers this year.

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Quote: St pete "Meli is winger
Sia is backrow
Wheeler is a crock

The point is, we only have one specialist centre in shenton. Carmont is a very good solid safe centre.'"


The point is all three of them are more than capable of performing at a higher level than what you call a "very good solid safe centre". The move of Meli to centre has been brilliant. He gets more work, is devastating near the line and he's not defending bombs. It's a win-win for us icon_smile.gif

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Quote: McClennan "The point is all three of them are more than capable of performing at a higher level than what you call a "very good solid safe centre". The move of Meli to centre has been brilliant. He gets more work, is devastating near the line and he's not defending bombs. It's a win-win for us
I'd still take a out and out specialist centre before meli and sia any day. Sia hasn't got the pace and is a very good backrow. Who would you play in the backrow when you move sia centre?

Meli has done a great jon, his power has give us much needed threat outwide but I still think he's a weak link in defence against good clever teams as positionally he's not sound.

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Quote: St pete "I'd still take a out and out specialist centre before meli and sia any day. Sia hasn't got the pace and is a very good backrow. Who would you play in the backrow when you move sia centre?

Meli has done a great jon, his power has give us much needed threat outwide but I still think he's a weak link in defence against good clever teams as positionally he's not sound.'"


I don't disagree with you about that but when you throw Carmont into the mix I'm obliged to argue. In fact, on behalf of the real world, I am bound by duty to do so icon_wink.gif

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Quote: McClennan "I don't disagree with you about that but when you throw Carmont into the mix I'm obliged to argue. In fact, on behalf of the real world, I am bound by duty to do so
He made dream team last year and exiles this year.

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Meli is as good as any Centre in SL, he's been brilliant for us at times this year. 9 tries and 10 assists in 17 appearances - that's a great return. It's fairly equivalent to the top performing Centres such as Atkins (12 tries & 9 assists), Welham (20 tries, 6 assists), Yeaman (18 tries, 4 assists), Bridge (9 tries, 8 asissts), Carmont (9 tries, 9 assists). Meli has played less games than all of those bar Bridge who he's played the same, so he stacks up very well overall.

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Quote: Blobbynator "Meli is as good as any Centre in SL, he's been brilliant for us at times this year. 9 tries and 10 assists in 17 appearances - that's a great return. It's fairly equivalent to the top performing Centres such as Atkins (12 tries & 9 assists), Welham (20 tries, 6 assists), Yeaman (18 tries, 4 assists), Bridge (9 tries, 8 asissts), Carmont (9 tries, 9 assists). Meli has played less games than all of those bar Bridge who he's played the same, so he stacks up very well overall.'"


It's his positional play in defence that worries me. Especially against Wigan and wolves who have took him apart in the past.

With ball in hand, meli is all power abd does offer us a threat outwide. Near the line he's unstoppable

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Quote: McClennan "Erm according to rlEngagerl there are seven of those players who are in the top 25 try scorers this year.'"

Aye, and even more players are in the top 50 try scorers this year.

Your point is?

Oh, and engage don't use a capital 'E' by the way. Just in case you were trying to be a smart arris.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Aye, and even more players are in the top 50 try scorers this year.

Your point is?

Oh, and engage don't use a capital 'E' by the way. Just in case you were trying to be a smart arris.'"


Don't shoot me down for this but i think his points is they are better than our backs

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Quote: SaintsFan "Aye, and even more players are in the top 50 try scorers this year.

Your point is?'"


He said top try scorers and on the official Super League top try scorers list it is a top 25 and they are all in the list. It was you who chose to apply a top ten try scorers criteria not Rogues. You can't argue with him over something he never said in the first place.

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Quote: McClennan "He said top try scorers and on the official Super League top try scorers list it is a top 25 and they are all in the list. It was you who chose to apply a top ten try scorers criteria not Rogues. You can't argue with him over something he never said in the first place.'"


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Quote: McClennan "He said top try scorers and on the official Super League top try scorers list it is a top 25 and they are all in the list. It was you who chose to apply a top ten try scorers criteria not Rogues. You can't argue with him over something he never said in the first place.'"

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I don't buy this specialist centre arguement.

To coin a phrase you are what you do. As you rightly point out Pete, Carmont made the exiles team. But so did Meli, so he should get equal credit fo making the team and probably would have played centre had Matt King's missus not had a baby and so had to pull out of the team.

Yes Meli gets caught in defence sometimes, but this weakness is far less impacting on the team than his brain farts on the wing. In the centre he has cover either side and as Catalan showed on Friday most teams will hit the combination of Sia, Shenton, Gaskell and Makinson rather than risk a smashing against Meli. I really like the Meli Foster combination, it's an effective partnership both in defence and attack. Apart from a huge jump on Foster by King off a perfect kick from Briers, I don't recall Foster getting caught outunder the high ball or a kick behind like Meli used to struggle with. When a ball goes up t that wing, I'm no longer 50/50 in my head as to whether we will cover it or not. I just expect it will be dealt with, which make a nice change after 4 - 5 years of, oh dear whats going to happen from this kick.

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