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| I heard that Brown is taking the cronulla job and Saints are in for Stuart. The guy who told me isn't usually far off.
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| Stuart, the guy who has coached Cronulla into being perenial never-rans? It would be a shocking decision if based on his work at the Sharks IMO, worse than the one to appoint Potter. His standing as a former player shouldn't be looked at, only his record as a coach. Has he coached anywhere other than Cronulla?
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| Quote: Saddened! "Stuart, the guy who has coached Cronulla into being perenial never-rans? It would be a shocking decision if based on his work at the Sharks IMO, worse than the one to appoint Potter. His standing as a former player shouldn't be looked at, only his record as a coach. Has he coached anywhere other than Cronulla?'"
Ricky from Wiki
Year Games Wins Draws Losses Win % Finals Series
Sydney Roosters 2002 28 20 1 7 71% NRL Premiers
2003 27 19 0 8 70%
2004 27 21 0 6 78%
2005 24 11 0 13 46%
2006 24 8 0 16 33%
Cronulla Sharks 2007 24 10 0 14 42%
2008 25 18 0 7 71%
2009 24 5 0 19 21%
Career 203 112 1 90 55%
His 1 NRL Premiership, and 1 WCC (against Saints) puts him above Bellamy.
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| Quote: saints35 bulls0 "Ricky from Wiki
Year Games Wins Draws Losses Win % Finals Series
Sydney Roosters 2002 28 20 1 7 71% NRL Premiers
2003 27 19 0 8 70%
2004 27 21 0 6 78%
2005 24 11 0 13 46%
2006 24 8 0 16 33%
Cronulla Sharks 2007 24 10 0 14 42%
2008 25 18 0 7 71%
2009 24 5 0 19 21%
Career 203 112 1 90 55%
His 1 NRL Premiership, and 1 WCC (against Saints) puts him above Bellamy.'"
The general consensus in Aus is that Stuart inherited a great team at the roosters before he was eventually sacked and now he has taken a Cronulla team who were last year tipped to be minor premiers to second bottom of the league in 2009 and in the same posistion this year thanks only to Melbourne . Throw in the (disastrous) world cup final to that aswell.
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| Quote: Smalls "The general consensus in Aus is that Stuart inherited a great team at the roosters before he was eventually sacked and now he has taken a Cronulla team who were last year tipped to be minor premiers to second bottom of the league in 2009 and in the same posistion this year thanks only to Melbourne . Throw in the (disastrous) world cup final to that aswell.'"
His record is interesting. 2004 and 2008 are the only seasons in which he has improved his side. Some of the drops are dramatic, 21 wins in 2004 turn to just 8 in 2006 at the Roosters and 18 wins in 2008 turn to 5 in 2009 at the Sharkies.
I watched Cronulla the other week against the Bulldogs (?) and the commentators were talking about them as a team in a shambolic state who rely totally on Paul Gallen.
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| Quote: Saddened! "His record is interesting. 2004 and 2008 are the only seasons in which he has improved his side. Some of the drops are dramatic, 21 wins in 2004 turn to just 8 in 2006 at the Roosters and 18 wins in 2008 turn to 5 in 2009 at the Sharkies.
I watched Cronulla the other week against the Bulldogs (?) and the commentators were talking about them as a team in a shambolic state who rely totally on Paul Gallen.'"
I've always been dubious of his actual coaching ability. It seemed like a lot of people were unimpressed with him at the Roosters and he had them at the foot of the table, but then he gets the International job? I was never sure exactly of what's going on.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Stuart, the guy who has coached Cronulla into being perenial never-rans? It would be a shocking decision if based on his work at the Sharks IMO, worse than the one to appoint Potter. His standing as a former player shouldn't be looked at, only his record as a coach. Has he coached anywhere other than Cronulla?'"
Wasn't it Stuart's side that zilled our Millward coached Saints in a WCC?
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| Quote: McClennan "Wasn't it Stuart's side that zilled our Millward coached Saints in a WCC?'"
Oh, in that case sign him up!
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| Quote: McClennan "Wasn't it Stuart's side that zilled our Millward coached Saints in a WCC?'"
Loads of coaches have nilled Millward (including the great Daryl Powell, I reckon).
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Loads of coaches have nilled Millward (including the great Daryl Powell, I reckon).'"
There was a world of difference between the two zillings.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Interesting take on the situation on the rlBBC websiterl'"
Am guessing that Scully and Potts aren't exactly bosom buddies then?? And it sounds as though he is confirming that the dressing room is hardly behind him either. So has he walked, or was he pushed?
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| Quote: SomersetSaint "So has he walked, or was he pushed?'"
His contract has run out.
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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "His contract has run out.'" Ok, lets look at it another way, would he have been offered another contract had he wanted one?
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| It's blatantly obvious that he didn't want the job in the first place. His heart was set on an NRL job post-Catalans but when no one offered him anything and with the strong pound he had no choice but to come here. He doesn't seem, from the outside anyway, to have put much into the role, he's certainly not emotionally attached to the club or it's players like the other coaches have all become, even Anderson, Hanley and McCrae looked like they would cry if we lost and you could never accuse them of not caring.
Scully's comments sum up Potter's personality perfectly. His detachments isn't necessarily a reflection on his coaching ability, but Scully hints at his lack of ability to properly motivate the players. You need to either be close to or have a big respect for someone if you are to be inspired by them. He has never got the fans on his side either.
Now it seems the club have known his wish to return to the NRL for a long time and have been looking for a while, I doubt this is a shock to anyone. But Mick may well be hit with another curve ball as I certainly can't see him getting a top level job in the NRL. Perhaps an assistant role somewhere.
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| Quote: SomersetSaint "Ok, lets look at it another way, would he have been offered another contract had he wanted one?'"
I imagine he would've been yes, considering the improvement on the performances and the kids this season, in comparison to last season. Now we have to start at the beginning again.
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