2000 but that was before Eamonn was chairman.

Sacking coaches never stopped Chelsea signing another coach and it never stopped them winning the Champions League either.

Big test of McManus this. Either Brown goes or so does McManus's credibility. He can't make those comments about how disappointed he is, then let Wello said what he said then be okay with it happening again.

Hopefully Eamon has spent the morning at the solicitors drawing up the necessary paperwork.

Yep, he really did put everything into the comments he made in the notes at the London game.

Nothing has changed so where does he go from here?

People keep saying: 'you're second in the league', but that is meaningless in a competition whete the champion is not decided on it. You need to win big games. We haven't been able to do so.

Thanks for having my back covered Bro.
Us proper RL fans need to stick together on these places.

Ah ok. Before my time that.

I look at the Wellens interview and I can't help feeling he's playing HIS get out of jail card.

Oh look the fans will respect me, I'll get no flak if I come out and give the old 'hard truth' interview.

Was he wrong? No but I hope he's looking at himself when he says that, I doubt he is though.

I don't think you can ever knock Wello's commitment or effort - he has every right to question the application of others in the squad.

In the interview hosted on t'other site, the interviewer asks him about watching the shambles from the bench. He is quick to correct him and say that he includes himself in all this. I think he's looking at it from being a fan and seeing that it was a shambles. Maybe he's being clever and giving the support what they want to hear, but that's not how I took it. He looks thoroughly annoyed.

Depressing as it is to say this, but I can't see passed the Pies for lifting the trophies again. Like it or not, Guy the Gorilla is a damn good coach.

Wigan will win everything again. I can't see past it.

It doesn't even depend on injuries with them, they don't rely on any star players too heavily and when they have injuries because they play a very structured effective game so the replacements are able to slot right into that structure and do the job the first choice did.

The semi shaven ape has them playing like their lives depend on it when it matters, he must feed their forwards on raw meat and keep them caged.

Leeds will most likely lose on of the 2 finals to them but it's anyones guess who plays against them in the other.

You were just outplayed yesterday just one of them things. Its inevitable that you were going to have a blip. Some but not all got carried away with your start. Its the end of the year that really matters and you will be in the shake up albeit you are already out of the cup.

What about Potter? Was he sacked? or did he just leave. Whatever he wasn't at the club very long.

Potter was with us for two years and he left at the end of his contract.

Look at the mentality on here

"Wigan will win everything"

Saints are two places ahead of Wigan on the table and they've lost their main creative halfback to a long term injury and you guys are still poop scared of them.

There must be something about seeing the cherry and white stripes that get you Saints fans bricking yourselves. Until this mentality is changed you will never be out of their shadow.

At Wire we aren't even as big a club as you but we don't live in constant awe and reverence of the mighty institution that is Wigan RLFC, we just say who the cluckin bells are they?

I completely agree on this. Wellens has been there and done it and worn the t-shirt...