too true MD

There is a difference. People find the supporters of successful teams annoying as they constantly go on (quite rightly)about their success. In football Man Utd fans are unpopular for this reason. Wire fans perceived arrogance comes from the fact that they way the crow far outweighs what they have actually achieved!

Can't wait for this match this afternoon. I hope they knock seven bells out of each other. As regards who I want to win I have said earlier Wire for me. I can't shout for or support Wigan ever. Arrogance doesn't come into it for me.


Just read on the Wire forum that Briers is out and Harrison. (don't know if it is true or not) if it is then i would expect Wigan to win.

They did.

Still in one way I'm happy that wire have lost their hold on the cup.
Now it is up to us to get there.

And you said wigan play boring rugby

This is a year where we may take down Wigan at Wembley. Finally after so long the chance for Saints to give some payback for those chances spurned pre SL.

Sadly I think if we get by Hull KR. It will be Wigan Saints Semi With an all yorkshire semi to make sure the semi's are sellouts. The final always sells well no matter who plays.


I've heard they started warming the yorkshire balls last week.

that was not boring

They play great well rehed rugby which is drilled in to them by a very very good coach.

The way they move it wide with all the runners as options causes the defence all sort of problems.

Both sides showed that they are vulnerable today. Wire are starting to pick up a run of injuries, so missing the semi and the final, will help them there getting players back.

I still say 2nd is not out of the question if we win all our games.

Wire's last 3 Catalan away, then Wigan, then Hull

Cat's away is tricky at the best of times, with them aiming for 4th spot all the more tricky.

Wigan have shown today they can beat Wire when it counts.

If they lose those 2 games, we will be 1 point off the Wire and well it's squeaky bum time and we all know what happened last year.

It's not probable. But it is possible. We need to be consistent and then wait and see if the Wheels fall off the Wire. It's a bit much to ask but far from impossible to imagine.

I think we saw today a Wigan side that will comfortably do the double.

Wire are an excellent side, but struggled to live with Wigan.

In the big games this year that have mattered, Wigan have had the ability to turn the notch upto 11 in both defence and offence. The main challengers to Wigan be it Warrington or Saints just havent been able to live with them.

I know my fellow Saints fans will make the excuse about losing to Wigan because we have had injuries, however in all those matches and throughout the season our defence has been awful. Unless we can somehow work out how to defend in the manner of Wigan, then i fear an absolute thrashing by the pies, if we meet in the cup or playoffs.

An interesting point to note is that with Briers and Morley missing Wire looked directionless for much of the match.
They are both veteran players and this does not bode well for Wires long term future as a top team. Especially when you consider Hodgson is also abut 34 years old.
I have a sneaky feeling this match will be seen as a watershed moment for the Wire. It would not surprise me if their moment in the spotlight is now over, and they will go back to being a decent but ultimately unsuccessful club.

How wire react to this will also be interesting. They have a few tough fixtures coming up, and if Saints can get on a run, then who knows we could end up finishing second. That would be an amazing achievement if it happened, and would be very unexpected.