We've established this earlier in the thread, you cant just single him out for these, look at your own ginger haired prop before commenting on Mr Bailey.

Incorrect, its about a number of professional rugby league players (and a ref) representing their sporting community & suggesting that of all the people they would have liked to have chinned it would be Bailey. Very different to the chinese whisper you interpreted it into



Not sure any of those points are correct either, in the case of your final point you have beaten us in 3 grand finals, that doesn't mean you have dominated us in the past few years, we've won our fair share of games against you too - but then you probably won't acknowledge those.

Some of you seem to think we have these opinionion of Bailey soley because he is a Leeds player when in fact that isn't the case, I imagine if he played for Bradford or Cas or even Saints you would probably feel the same way we do. You make him out to be some kind of 'enforcer' which couldn't be further than the truth.

We have, every week. Bailey is still a $hithouse; there are a few others in SL Mark Calderwood used to be, for instance, but this thread is about Bailey.

Ive met him, spoke to him a few times, always seemed a fairly nice bloke.

I know one or two players who came through the leeds academy a year or two after him, one played first grade with him, a couple at academy level who went to play elsewhere. Not a bad word to say about him,

Every coach he has played for does so in glowing terms.

Frankly my own personal experience, that of people i know, 4 grand finals, 2 lls, and 2 wcc count for a lot more than the opinion of those less successful, never successful, and a rugby union referee

I can't believe this has got to 10 pages.

i think you will find most honest people would say it does!

to be fair bailey has played awesome at times and has also been crap. this season he is having his best since 04! He has frustrated the hell out of me and other Leeds fans at times! we get behind him because you lot are so keen to knock him! we have a true unforced in peacock bails doesn't do that job but has alway steped up when asked! he is 3rd or 4th choice prop at Leeds! bailey on that scale is pure quality! Low errors, low pens, lots of tackles, not great yards, quick and fit for a prop! gets under other teams skin! it's obvious he rattles saints even if you can't admit it!

You dominated us in one of those matches, last years was incredibly close.

Not really, as Lumpy mentions above you only dominated us in one of those finals, but then I was speaking about the past 3 years (which you conveniently edited out).

Maybe its a simple case of semantics but to help clear things up... out of the past three seasons (not including 2010 results):

Saints won 6/13 with 229 points for.
Leeds won 7/13 with 249 points for.

So a fairly even few seasons with a 1 match win/loss difference and 20 points difference. Compare that to our results against Warrington over the same 3 seasons, though obviously with less games:

Saints won 10/10 with 332 points for.
Wire won 0/10 with 188 points for.

144 points difference and... well the win/loss kinda speaks for itself and may help you understand why we don't consider ourselves dominated?

Still awaiting the evidence .

try here then it must be true about bails lmgtfy.com/?q=the+most+feared+ma ... per+league

try here then it must be true about bails lmgtfy.com/?q=the+most+feared+ma ... per+league

Lock it FFS Bailey is average and so is this topic. Stop making this clown out to be a tuff guy when its quite obvious he is not,can any body tell me if he has ever gone toe to toe with anyone and won no he his just a cheap shot merchant a bit like the panto vilan,oh and dont start telling me how many rings and medals he has it means nothing Ricky Bibeys got a few.

Sorry, but do you have to end every sentence with a '!' ?

Thats so last year!

Bored now.