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Quote: SaintsFan "I expect him to perform as he has done in other matches, when he hasn't been quiet, that's why I referred to consistency! If he is going to be one of our key players I expect him to perform in his role consistently enough for us to be able to have confidence in his ability, both now and in the future. I'm not saying he should never drop a ball or make a wrong decision or pass inappropriately

I understand what your saying but he is a long lad in a key postion.

If saints are going with youth next year then you are going to have to except that the likes of eastmond and co will have quite games as they learn.

IMO in a ideal world longy would do another year to give Kyle little bit of time to bed in as another year learning would do him good.

The lad is only 20 and still got alot to learn.

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Quote: SaintsFan "You are comparing apples and oranges. Ashurst and Dixon are interchanged, for starters. I think both have scored tries; Ashurst certainly has. They work very hard both in defence and attack and have not looked out of place in their roles at this level. IMO that is more than sufficient for them to be offered a longer term contract. Kyle's role is a different one from that of Ashurst and Dixon. Chances are there will be more Ashursts and Dixons around than Eastmonds, in terms of players in those positions, given the more creative and instinctive characteristics needed for a good scrum half.'"


I'm not comparing eastmond to dixon or ashurst.

I'm saying why isn't eastmond been signed on longer deal like the other kids?

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Quote: Ashmeister "Do you really think the club would allow Kyle to carry on playing untill his contract runs out for him to move to Union ? If he was off we would be sorting our 500 grand cheque out now because thats not far off what we could ask for him imo.

Rogues as told many lies like this about Saints but changes the person, Location and random person involved each time.'"


Please feel free to go back and show where.

Do you believe or not that someone came to me last night to tell me about Eastmond.

If you want to call me a liar fair enough, that's your call, but there were three other people with me who can tell you that it DID happen.

The Perpingan story was NOT about about a Saints player it was about an ex Wigan player now at Hull, and was also true.

Two of the Saints players I have referred to in the past as "being a problem are no longer at your club, one at Celtic and one has had more clubs than Jack nicholas, Quins, Cas, Salford Widnes etc

Was I correct?

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Quote: St pete "Then why did saints offer ashurst, wheeler and dixon on long term deals? They hadn't seen them player super league either when they signed. IMO we should get Kyle signed now as this kid is the real deal. His pace will be trouble for any defence. He got something about him that a young longy had.'"
when i say long term deal i mean 5-6 years, probably on very good money, whereas the other lads are probably on less.

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Kyle was pretty good last night, yet again Leon did nothing to help him out though.

Hopefully Potter has the backbone (i doubt he does) to keep Longy out of the team when he is fit, assuming Kyle continues in his current form.

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Quote: St pete "The lad is only 20 and still got alot to learn.'"

I agree entirely. I was trying to speak about presence on the pitch, which should be there naturally, as with Tomkins (who is the same age, isn't he?). His craft will be learned over time, but the raw potential should be obvious every week, surely? Or maybe scrum halves have quiet matches?

As for the point about contracts ... either the club aren't willing to commit as yet or Eastmond isn't. Either way, I'm not worried. I'm just glad we've snapped up Wheeler.

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Quote: ST_CONROY "Kyle was pretty good last night, yet again Leon did nothing to help him out though. '"

I think Leon was too busy trying to get the rest of the team to play as a team! Did you not see him yelling at them all the time? He was working his butt off but sometimes it looked like he was doing it alone, Jammer and Wellens excepted.

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Quote: ST_CONROY "Kyle was pretty good last night, yet again Leon did nothing to help him out though.

Hopefully Potter has the backbone (i doubt he does) to keep Longy out of the team when he is fit, assuming Kyle continues in his current form.'"


Why do people have this blind hatred of Leon? It's ridiculous. He was our best player last night by a long way, I've rarely seen a player work as hard or be as committed as Pryce was last night.

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Quote: SaintsFan "I agree entirely. I was trying to speak about presence on the pitch, which should be there naturally, as with Tomkins (who is the same age, isn't he?). His craft will be learned over time, but the raw potential should be obvious every week, surely? Or maybe scrum halves have quiet matches?

As for the point about contracts ... either the club aren't willing to commit as yet or Eastmond isn't. Either way, I'm not worried. I'm just glad we've snapped up Wheeler.'"


sorry i don't agree. IMO Kyle is showing more than enough raw talent every week.

I also think we are fooked without Kyle as he the only player who looks like making a break.

I think at this moment in time with his attack and his goal kicking he is the most important player.

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Quote: SaintsFan "I think Leon was too busy trying to get the rest of the team to play as a team! Did you not see him yelling at them all the time? He was working his butt off but sometimes it looked like he was doing it alone, Jammer and Wellens excepted.'"


I,ve been impressed with Leon Pyrce this season, he's doing a lot of good stuff that often goes un noticed, in defence for instance, for example Friday nights double tackle on the 2 wigoon players. He never fails in being in position for the 2nd phase attack. What annoys me is when he isn,t making breaks and scoring trys people say he drifts in and out of the game when he is actually doing the "un-noticed stuff".
Can,t wait for Eastmond/Pryce(Little and Large) to fully click into place, then the opposition will have something seriously to worry about.

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Quote: Saddened! "Why do people have this blind hatred of Leon? It's ridiculous. He was our best player last night by a long way, I've rarely seen a player work as hard or be as committed as Pryce was last night.'"


I agree. Leon does work hard even when he ain't at his best but if you ever mention wilkin going missing nearly every week the is a uproar.

Leon is a born winner and that shows on the field.

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Any criticism of Pryce on last night's performance is utterly ridiculous IMO. I didn't think he was MOM but he tried everything to break their defence down. Don't forget, he is having to try and form a partnership every bit as Kyle is.

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Quote: Saint-Gary "Any criticism of Pryce on last night's performance is utterly ridiculous IMO. I didn't think he was MOM but he tried everything to break their defence down. Don't forget, he is having to try and form a partnership every bit as Kyle is.'"


jammer was by far best player on pitch

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Quote: St pete "I also think we are fooked without Kyle as he the only player who looks like making a break.'"

Now, that I do agree with, especially at present with our injury/illness woes.

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Quote: Judder Man "IWhat annoys me is when he isn,t making breaks and scoring trys people say he drifts in and out of the game when he is actually doing the "un-noticed stuff".'"

That annoys me too. He is everywhere, working hard defensively and popping up as needed, usually to make a great pass (one of which would have made a great try last night had Gilmour not dropped the ball!) or kick or whatever. He's had to be a man with a mission this season given the absence of Long (twice) and others.

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