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| Quote: Kebab From Genos "As stated previously in this thread, as a club St.Helens depise Wigan, Wigan despise St.Helens. This is not about arrogance, its about history and tradition.
As a set of supporters, both St.Helens and Wigan depise Warrington. This is down to the fact they have always had a problem with attracting d**khead supporters and now two CC wins later, more and more appear to be jumping on this bandwagon.
I agree with the 'mutual respect' between Wigan and St.Helens (barring derby day of course ![]()
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| Quote: Kebab From Genos "As stated previously in this thread, as a club St.Helens depise Wigan, Wigan despise St.Helens. This is not about arrogance, its about history and tradition.
As a set of supporters, both St.Helens and Wigan depise Warrington. This is down to the fact they have always had a problem with attracting d**khead supporters and now two CC wins later, more and more appear to be jumping on this bandwagon.
I agree with the 'mutual respect' between Wigan and St.Helens (barring derby day of course  )
On derby day, I get up feeling butterflies, go and watch a fantasticly fought nerve racking game with a brilliant atmosphere. This is exactly the same as any Warrington game.
The difference comes when en route home. After Wigan away, every year we walk back to the train discussing the game with Wigan fans, whoever loses is gracious in defeat. Home safely, no problems.
At Warrington away, its a task getting back to the station without being confronted. Theres always that feeling of nastiness in the air. If saints have won (which happened a fair bit  ) you receive constant abuse. Even after the game last month, they were trying to bait all the saints fans to cause a reaction. total pr**ks.
Tbh, I'm surprised the police haven't requested a midday KO for tomorrows cup game because if Wigan win and end Warrington's 'Cup Dominance', I expect a fair bit of trouble.. hopefully all are well behaved, but I'm not holding my breath.[/qI think this boils down to us having a younger following of fans,when a local club hasn't won anything for years then all of a sudden 2 trophies on the bounce you tend to get a big influx on fans bit like the 90's when utd started winning stufff the shirts started appearing in the younger generation. The unfortunate part of this for us that with that younger element comes with younger drinkers which wasn't as prevenlent when saints and more so wigan started dominating,this is my theory anyway. We do have a lot of decent fans aswell as idiots as all clubs do but it is unjust to tar all with the same brush that a lot of posters on this thread have done
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loads of bellends in warrington.... bound to be some trouble somewhere.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "loads of bellends in warrington.... bound to be some trouble somewhere.'"
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| Quote: Kebab From Genos "As stated previously in this thread, as a club St.Helens depise Wigan, Wigan despise St.Helens. This is not about arrogance, its about history and tradition.
As a set of supporters, both St.Helens and Wigan depise Warrington. This is down to the fact they have always had a problem with attracting d**khead supporters and now two CC wins later, more and more appear to be jumping on this bandwagon.
I agree with the 'mutual respect' between Wigan and St.Helens (barring derby day of course 
(also assuming we beat the dobbins; I'd fancy our chances in the semi's or final against dire rather than the goons having watched us against both of them recently - we were stuffed by wigoon and a tad unfortunate and dire).
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "I love the 'trouble with the Wire fans is they're all arrogant' speech.
Wigan fans practically invented the word and us Wire fans have had their arrogance rammed down our throats for years, the 2nd we even remotely mention anything positive we're arrogant?
What's wrong with us saying we have a great team when we so evidently do right now?
What's wrong with saying we think we'll win games when we are 2nd and have the shield in our own destiny?
The trouble with all these successful teams is they can't take another mouth at the table of meagre offerings.
Arrogant maybe, but Wigan and to a slightly lesser extent Saints have been guilty of it in bundles.'"
There is a difference. People find the supporters of successful teams annoying as they constantly go on (quite rightly)about their success. In football Man Utd fans are unpopular for this reason. Wire fans perceived arrogance comes from the fact that they way the crow far outweighs what they have actually achieved! |
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| Quote: -Tracie- "This is bang on.
Being brought up with Wigan RL the Wigan-Saints rivallary is bred into you but I can and will take stick off any Saints fan and respect them simply because they have won it all, they have the right to have the arrogance about them. Wire winning 2 challenge cups in sixty years and being so arrogant annoys the Sh** out of me!!!
Saints over Wire any day for me.
EDIT _ To make it clear though only only ever against Wire........... oh an the Aussies ![]()
I like it when stupid people define themselves as such.
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| Can't wait for this match this afternoon. I hope they knock seven bells out of each other. As regards who I want to win I have said earlier Wire for me. I can't shout for or support Wigan ever. Arrogance doesn't come into it for me.
Just read on the Wire forum that Briers is out and Harrison. (don't know if it is true or not) if it is then i would expect Wigan to win.  |
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| Quote: Agent Mulder "Just read on the Wire forum that Briers is out and Harrison. (don't know if it is true or not) if it is then i would expect Wigan to win. ![]()
And guess what?
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| Quote: SaintsFan "And guess what?'"
They did. 
Still in one way I'm happy that wire have lost their hold on the cup.
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| Quote: Agent Mulder "They did. ![]()
I am never happy when Wigan win anything!
However, Wire were very poor in defence and they clearly missed Briers and Morley. God knows how they would have coped if they'd had our injury crisis!
We need to ensure that our defence is Danielandersonesque from now on in because if we can absorb what Wigan throw in the first 20 minutes or so then we have as good a chance of beating Wigan as we have of anything else.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I am never happy when Wigan win anything!
However, Wire were very poor in defence and they clearly missed Briers and Morley. God knows how they would have coped if they'd had our injury crisis!
We need to ensure that our defence is Danielandersonesque from now on in because if we can absorb what Wigan throw in the first 20 minutes or so then we have as good a chance of beating Wigan as we have of anything else.'"
And you said wigan play boring rugby |
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| Quote: St pete "And you said wigan play boring rugby ![]()
They do. They play the same plays over and over again. Then Sam Tomkins runs. And of course there is the three man piley, which always dulls down a game of rugby.
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| This is a year where we may take down Wigan at Wembley. Finally after so long the chance for Saints to give some payback for those chances spurned pre SL.
Sadly I think if we get by Hull KR. It will be Wigan Saints Semi With an all yorkshire semi to make sure the semi's are sellouts. The final always sells well no matter who plays.
I've heard they started warming the yorkshire balls last week.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "They do. They play the same plays over and over again. Then Sam Tomkins runs. And of course there is the three man piley, which always dulls down a game of rugby.'"
that was not boring |
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