Hope so, just hope it's home, I can't be doing with that car park at your place.

You've forgotten then that we've beaten you twice already, once by 38 points to nil. I wouldn't get all smug just because Saints didn't turn up today.

You're bound to make mistakes if you put on shifts without going forward first. If we're struggling to clear our lines we should get to the end of our set, kick deep and do some aggressive defending. Going wide early in the set in our own 20 was only going to end in disaster.

Regarding Mose, I think he's been okay most weeks (no better than that) but he was lame today, no mistake.

I don't disagree with the rest of your post but the fact some are not local doesn't really make any difference in my opinion. There's been many fantastic players over the years who have worn that Saints jersey who have given 100% and they weren't local. It's about personal pride and commitment. It's up to the coach to remind them of that & to motivate them.

That is truly naive!

When have Wigan been nilled by 42 points? Or Leeds? Even Warrington managed to score two tries against us in the first game of the season! And the point I make is that this has become a pattern for us (but not for Wigan, Leeds or Wire). When expectation is on us - on Good Friday, the CC at Leeds and at Magic - we don't turn up. Our attitude stinks and nobody is fixing it.

No not really. I could have appeared after Magic if that was so. Maybe being a Salford fan allows you to keep your feet on the ground but for you (or it might have been Saddened) to suggest you need `a new pack, 2 centres, a 6 and a new coach` etc really beggars belief.

Look you are top of the League - try & accept defeat gracefully and be realistic.

Isn't this the Salford team who's won one game in something like last 9 games? Is this the Salford that spent a fortune on 2nd rate players and in a relegation battle?

They breathed a massive relief that the bulls didn't get points back, that's for sure.

Exactly but even we know our pack is rubbish for us to use those tactics.

Come October I bet most on here will agree with me regarding mose, he's a big soft pudding.

I`m not being smug - I am criticising Saddened & St Pete for not accepting defeat graciously. We will have 4 ex Saints possibly in tomorrow - TP, Meli, Dixon & Ashurst so we'll be up for it.

On another subject - Is Manu on his way out? Back to Hull or looking for a club?

I've not posted that but IMO we need a centre, stand off, two props and two backrows to be up there winning things as we've to many players that are Salford standard and not saints standard.

Well I dont think Turner will be on Marwans Christmas list.

At least he caught a crossfield kick. Unlike everyone else in our team.

It's the performance we are not accepting graciously; not the defeat. We are supposed to be top of the league. Technically we are (although not after Wednesday). A top of the league team should not be conceding 42 points at any time, never mind against a team where we have only been on the losing side once, when we fielded an under 19s team.


I hope he IS on his way out. He's done preciously little for us except drop the ball since he started. But then he's had Brown as his coach so he probably doesn't know from one week to the next which position he's playing.

Who's naive I never said anything about the other teams being nilled I said they have all had their off days. Wigan the other week were torn apart by Cas, Leeds and Warrington have also lost games. Saints are still at the top of the table . We can only learn from this terrible result and move on . No point brining up Good Friday it's gone we lost. Put those loses behind us and move on.

We are top until Wednesday, when Wigan beat Widnes. Then we are third at best, and our points difference is shocking now when compared to others around us. We lose to Cas on Sunday, which I expect us to, and we are fifth I think if others around us win. If Saints don't buck up their ideas by next weekend we could feasibly be out of the play off positions very quickly as there aren't many points between the top eight.