FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > St. Helens > Lomax - what has happened to him?
160 posts in 12 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , BackrowSaint
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16170No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bewareshadows "I'm easily hooked, by comments which suggest the end for a player after one game being out of the team. AKA the threads about Wellens being out, the thread about Gaskell and Makinson on the same page as this one, the threads in the past about Wheeler not getting anymore chances.'"

Except, of course, the club has form when it comes to dropping young players, especially Gaskell. So I don't think the question is at all unreasonable.

And while Gardner may offer some go forward in kick returns, some of the tries Makinson has scored Gardner wouldn't have come near to scoring. And Gardner doesn't have half Makinson's pace.

Meli won't be dropped no matter what a load of balls he plays because unfortunately, when it comes to senior players, they get to play regardless of their form, their abilities or their attitude.

EHW
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner8627
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: SaintsFan "Except, of course, the club has form when it comes to dropping young players, especially Gaskell. So I don't think the question is at all unreasonable.

And while Gardner may offer some go forward in kick returns, some of the tries Makinson has scored Gardner wouldn't have come near to scoring. And Gardner doesn't have half Makinson's pace.

Meli won't be dropped no matter what a load of balls he plays because unfortunately, when it comes to senior players, they get to play regardless of their form, their abilities or their attitude.'"


Gardner performed better on Saturday than Makinson has done so far this season (and scored a try). No point in Makinson having pace if he never uses it. He never beats the man on the outside, never comes in field looking for work and doesn't provide much go forward from kick returns. Its a toss up between Meli and Makinson for me, Gardner is fairly consistent.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6767No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: SaintsFan "

And while Gardner may offer some go forward in kick returns, some of the tries Makinson has scored Gardner wouldn't have come near to scoring. And Gardner doesn't have half Makinson's pace.

.'"

You need to look at the whole package, an in form Gardner is a much better option, the only thing against him his age. Makinson is very frustrating, he,s a one trick pony at the moment, i,m expecting better things from him but he doesn,t seem to be able to go up another level.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16170No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Judder Man "You need to look at the whole package, an in form Gardner is a much better option, the only thing against him his age.'"

I disagree.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6767No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: SaintsFan "I disagree.'"



Thats because you protect your 2 boys at all costs, something we might agree on.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16170No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Judder Man "Thats because you protect your 2 boys at all costs, something we might agree on.'"

That's a childish thing to say.

I disagree with your point on Gardner because I disagree with it. I believe when looking at the whole package it is Makinson who is the 'much better option'. The only advantage Gardner has over Makinson is in his kick returns. In all other respects he is inferior to Makinson.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner1390No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2019Apr 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: SaintsFan "That's a childish thing to say.

I disagree with your point on Gardner because I disagree with it. I believe when looking at the whole package it is Makinson who is the 'much better option'. The only advantage Gardner has over Makinson is in his kick returns. In all other respects he is inferior to Makinson.'"


Each to their own choice.

However I don't think they are being compared like for like.

Makinson has not had any service. Playing an expansive game Makinson is a finisher with pace to beat people.
Playing a limited game the steady eddy clear you lines approach of Gardner has value.

I want to see Saints play football again and use the backs. Having Gardner on the end of line negates this , he offers no threat in a genuine attacking sense.

Think there is a place for Gardner at right second row. Tackles well is big enough and could still do his trademark scoots or first man plunges in exit sets.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1848
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2016Apr 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Meli and Gardner provide better go forward than Makinson, but have less pace. I think Meli's guaranteed his place, (don't know why or particularly agree with it but I think that's the way it is), leaving it a choice between Makinson and Gardner for the right wing spot.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2681No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2017Jul 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Gerry Mander "Think there is a place for Gardner at right second row. Tackles well is big enough and could still do his trademark scoots or first man plunges in exit sets.'"


And drop him for who, exactly? Or, are you not being serious?

I think we are best off sticking with Soliola, personally.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2681No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2017Jul 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



For the record, I think I prefer Gardner over Makinson atm. Don't see the big fuss over Makinson currently, he's as error prone as Meli IMO.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Albion "For the record, I think I prefer Gardner over Makinson atm. Don't see the big fuss over Makinson currently, he's as error prone as Meli IMO.'"



Now that's a big call to make!

Even against a not so good Bradford outfit Meli still managed to mess up. In the end Makinson just has to bide his time, Meli is due to leave this season and unless we want to spend money on wingers rather than props and Halves (unlikely) next year Makinson is almost garunteed a spot.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2681No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2017Jul 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bewareshadows "Now that's a big call to make!

Even against a not so good Bradford outfit Meli still managed to mess up. In the end Makinson just has to bide his time, Meli is due to leave this season and unless we want to spend money on wingers rather than props and Halves (unlikely) next year Makinson is almost garunteed a spot.'"


Meli has made one more error than Makinson so far this season, so the statement stands if you consider Meli has played one more game! icon_wink.gif

As you say both Gardner and Meli will probably go at the end of the year, so Makinson is a shoe in next year. Wonder who will be on the other wing

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Kyle Eastmond. icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16963No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Albion "Meli has made one more error than Makinson so far this season, so the statement stands if you consider Meli has played one more game!

Dixon from London

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner1390No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2019Apr 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Albion "And drop him for who, exactly? Or, are you not being serious?

I think we are best off sticking with Soliola, personally.'"


Yes not a joke a serious opinion. SRs don't play 80 minutes anyway. Not an either or choice IMO.

160 posts in 12 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , BackrowSaint
160 posts in 12 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , BackrowSaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


9.7880859375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
28m
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40791
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
63259
Recent
Film game
Wanderer
5734
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
19s
2025 Recruitment
Rattler13
204
25s
Planning for next season
Bent&Bon
184
31s
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
32s
Shopping list for 2025
hull2524
5586
33s
Film game
Wanderer
5734
43s
Pre Season - 2025
Irregs#16
188
1m
Rumours and signings v9
[Gareth]
28897
1m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
1m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
106
1m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
64
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
52
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1042
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
636
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1363
England's Women Demolish The W..
1193
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1430
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1211
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1473
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2011
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2224
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2462
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2025
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2269
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2734
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2158
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2235