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| I'd keep them all personally. The reason? Because Eamon McManus is a cheap ass who would only replace them with bargain basement signings. There would be no transfer fees, no ambition and certainly no improvement on those players you are planning on cutting.
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| Walsh out - Mellor In
Turner out - Connor in
That would be 2 positive moves. Then id look overseas for 2 or 3 players.
I think 2 big second rowers who can offload are musts imo.
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| We might be able to replace 1 or 2 players on that list but good players are really in short supply and I'm sure other Superleague clubs will keep hold of the better players so I don't think the availability is there. I think I would look at offloading LMS being more of a liability these days, if Lomax makes a successful return then we could offload SMD, although Burns is not on the list he is becoming surplus to requirements with his below par performances.
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| Quote Starman="Starman"From the top of my head Wilkin, Walsh, LMS, Turner and McDonnell are OOC this year. There's probably a couple more but these five inparticular are interesting. Who would everyone like to keep/release if it were up to them?
To start us off:
Walsh - i wouldn't mind him staying for another year if we can get an effective running 6 with him.
Wilkin - despite the stick he gets, i think he leads us around well and i wouldn't mind him staying for another year or two, hopefully playing as a ball-playing 13.
LMS - i'd be tempted to let him go. As good as he can be on his day, i can't help but feel for the money i imagine he's on (England international when he signed and may have signed a new deal since i cannot remember) we could find someone better or will be in a few years.
Turner - similarly to LMS, i feel this is an area we could do better. I don't think either Turner or Peyroux are good enough to be centres for a side that wants to challenge for SL. He has utility value but with Peyroux around next year to cover centre and back row i'd be happy to let JT go and look for a centre who can both attack and defend.
McDonnell - if SMD is happy to stay another year as a back up full-back i'd be happy to have him for another year. I don't think he is good enough in that position to be first choice for a side who wants to challenge for SL, but he is competent back up IMHO. The fullback area could need addressing in 2016 depending on how Lomax goes this year. Also depends on how the young fb in the reserves (Bailey is it?) progresses.'"
Burns should be on that list mate. His time is up IMO. I would also let Walsh go. We carry him at times, defensively the work is being spread out more because I don't think he puts much of a shift in. Long, Goulding, Martyn and co used to put a proper effort in. I'm grateful for LMS's contribution over the years but I think he's a liability like other people have said. I would keep the rest. We'd be lost without Wilkin. The fella carries Saints most of the time.
So posters might think I'm barmy but you could probably release Burns, Walsh and LMS now and I don't think it would hurt us that much.
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| Quote Twentyman="Twentyman"Burns should be on that list mate. His time is up IMO. I would also let Walsh go. We carry him at times, defensively the work is being spread out more because I don't think he puts much of a shift in. Long, Goulding, Martyn and co used to put a proper effort in. I'm grateful for LMS's contribution over the years but I think he's a liability like other people have said. I would keep the rest. We'd be lost without Wilkin. The fella carries Saints most of the time.
So posters might think I'm barmy but you could probably release Burns, Walsh and LMS now and I don't think it would hurt us that much.'"
Burns isn't out of contract this year, though.
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| Quote Dux="Dux"Burns isn't out of contract this year, though.'"
He isn't, but there's quite a few inquiring about him at the moment if rumours are to be believed - palming him off might not be that difficult
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| Quote Magic Superbeetle="Magic Superbeetle"He isn't, but there's quite a few inquiring about him at the moment if rumours are to be believed - palming him off might not be that difficult'"
If clubs are sniffing around Burns then we should be looking very hard for someone we could bring in on an instant basis. If we could offload him now and bring in, say, a good quality 9 to rotate with Robes, then we'd be in a better position. I'm not sure I'd let him go if there's nothing out there, though, and the fact that it seems Hudds have come knocking for him as a solution to their problems at 7/9 probably suggests that there isn't.
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| Quote Dux="Dux"If clubs are sniffing around Burns then we should be looking very hard for someone we could bring in on an instant basis. If we could offload him now and bring in, say, a good quality 9 to rotate with Robes, then we'd be in a better position. I'm not sure I'd let him go if there's nothing out there, though, and the fact that it seems Hudds have come knocking for him as a solution to their problems at 7/9 probably suggests that there isn't.'"
Or a good quality 6 and use fages as rotation with Robes. We in dire need of someone who can create something or make a break
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| Wilkin out and JT at loose. JT is a big lad and has shown promise when playing at LF where his defence is not too bad when not having to read the plays. I will pay Walsh's ticket home as he is stealing a living at the Saints. I don't think it will be too difficult to replace LMS on less salary. I would persevere with Greenwood for at least another year as he is still young.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Or a good quality 6 and use fages as rotation with Robes. We in dire need of someone who can create something or make a break'"
Make a break, now there's an idea 
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