Someone talking a bit of sense on this thread. Morley has been one of the best forwards in the world for a long period of time. He was a very good player in his time at Leeds and improved dramatically in Aus.
He was pretty good whilst at Warrington and came to Salford in his twilight years. I was originally against this but I've been impressed with him in his time here and he certainly puts a shift in. He's had some cracking games and doesn't let the side down. Ask any player who's played against him!
Saddened, I didn't hear many Saints fans saying Kevin Ward was "Shiocking" in his twilight years at saints.
Give the man some respect as a great player and great ambassador of our great game.

Above average??? Morley was a brilliant prop. The Aussies hated him. Graham has great ball handling skills (Oi Oiiiiii!!!!) but still, I'd have loved to have seen Morley at Saints.

I'm more than happy to have a boxing match. I don't agree with and blood testing during my training or post fight tho

I agree! Mozza was brilliant player here and become world class in the NRL. One of the modern greats and also set the bench mark for british players playing in the NRL in the super league era. I'm pretty sure the Burgess brothers and jammer wouldnt have been chased if it wasn't fkr the impact mozza had.

It's amazing how so many people can't read plain English.

I DIDN'T say Adrian Morley wasn't a great player.
I DID say Adrian Morley was the best prop in the world.
I DID say Adrian Morley's time at the top was relatively short lived.
I DID say James Graham - considered over the duration of his career and based on the entirety of his skills is a better player than Morley ever was.

Can't people be happy enough with Morley being considered the best prop in the world for eighteen months/two years? Or is it that unless I consider him equally as good as Graham (or better) - which he demonstrably wasn't - they'll all cry?

It seems so.

Pathetic.

Some say that GB would've won by 40 points if he hadn't been sent off.

Based on Britain's performances over the last forty years against Australia I'd love to know on what basis "some people" might possibly think that...

Looks like he's declined the offer. All money couid go to Danny jones

Morley was a very good second row in England, then moved up to prop in Australia. He led the Roosters forward pack in defence in a way I haven't seen any other forward bar Sam Burgess do. He was also always on the verge of being sent off however, because (in the NRL at least) he never got rid of his tendency to swing the arm every now and then.

I'd put him behind Burgess because Burgess was a far better player with the ball (although this was an area Morley did develop a lot). He'd be ahead of Ellis, who was absolutely outstanding for the Tigers. Still undecided as to where I'd put Graham on the list - he can be great but I'd love to see him in a team with better halfbacks so he could use his skill more selectively.

One thing's for sure, if we had Burgess, Morley, Graham and Gareth Ellis all at their peak, I'd genuinely say England had a better pack than Australia. Sadly we don't seem to produce enough of them to get them all on the field at their peak at the same time.

This is broadly what I'm saying. No one would ever suggest Morley was a great forward until he moved to Australia. Whereas Graham was outstanding from the age of 21/22 in SL - and then got even better in the NRL.

Considered over the duration of his career Morley spent far too long as a "talented but raw" forward with not enough time spent as the real deal. Like Jamie Peacock you could never accuse Graham of being anything less than at the top of his game (in the context of the competition he played in) since he matured physically.



Given that neither the Roosters nor the Bunnies are or were in any way short of talent I'd argue that Graham has achieved beyond both. Even the most one-eyed of the Dogs fans admit their side isn't particularly great and yet through Graham's almost single-handed intervention have still managed to achieve two finals.

Like I said - they love him more than Terry Lamb. And any time a Dogs fan says that - you know it's serious.

Good lord they are the same age, but By the Time Peacock had got round to being a Bradford Regular Morley had won a challenge cup, played in a Superleague Grand Final and had decided to Sign for an NRL club. As Good a Ball player James Graham is and As good a Leader Peacock is they dont have a highlights reel Like Morley's.

If he is the last of a dying Breed then shame on the game. I'd rather see Adrian Morley smashing Awen Guttenbeel as revenge for him 12 months earlier smashing a halfback and Standing over him giving it billy big balls...than James Grahams histrionics.

James Graham is all mouth in those situations.....like the "Run again son" to Jason King...I hate Graham's Mouthy stuff it simply means your bark's worse than your bite (I once gave Chris Arkwright a spray... then I ran a ball back from under the sticks he smashed me and gently held my face in a puddle for a while...you learn these things...)

you probably haven't seen enough of Morley in the NRL to make that odd comment. So Its fair enough.
James Graham is a superb ball playing forward and an Absolute Tackling machine, Id have him at wires anyday...but out of Morley's league not a chance......

Absolutely spot on.