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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Here we go again ...
Let us check the SL stats before we take your (demonstrably biased) opinion seriously.
Mose made more tackles than EVERY forward (excluding Roby & Sav) and including Walmsley.
Mose missed two tackles - FIVE fewer than Amor.
Mose made seven hit ups - which doesn't sound a great deal. But we should remember that he plays fewer minutes. Consequently his hit ups are comparable with Amor's 11 and no worse than Flash (7), Thompson (5), Richards (7), Sav (9). On the plus side - Mose made more yards per carry than any other forward with the exception of Walmsley & Thompson.
Twenty five tackles for a guy Mose's size and limited time-on-pitch (with only two misses) is in NO WAY representative of your loaded assessment.'"
Let's just i know for fact he was on me if the players he was talking about. Fact!
Stop following me around on here. If you got a problem lets talk face to face at hudds next week ?
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Here we go again ...
Let us check the SL stats before we take your (demonstrably biased) opinion seriously.
Mose made more tackles than EVERY forward (excluding Roby & Sav) and including Walmsley.
Mose missed two tackles - FIVE fewer than Amor.
Mose made seven hit ups - which doesn't sound a great deal. But we should remember that he plays fewer minutes. Consequently his hit ups are comparable with Amor's 11 and no worse than Flash (7), Thompson (5), Richards (7), Sav (9). On the plus side - Mose made more yards per carry than any other forward with the exception of Walmsley & Thompson.
Twenty five tackles for a guy Mose's size and limited time-on-pitch (with only two misses) is in NO WAY representative of your loaded assessment.'"
Let's put these into perspective though.
Firstly Mose always APPEARS to be second or third into a tackle does he get a T in the stats for that?
He is paid more than probably any other forward but does the least amount of minutes thus putting extra pressure on particularly Walmsley. Does this seem value for money?
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| Quote WidnesExile="WidnesExile"Let's put these into perspective though.
Firstly Mose always APPEARS to be second or third into a tackle does he get a T in the stats for that?
He is paid more than probably any other forward but does the least amount of minutes thus putting extra pressure on particularly Walmsley. Does this seem value for money?'"
Exactly mate and from day one I've said he comes in 3rd man which certain few on here will vouch for.
I 109% agree with him putting pressure on Amor and Walmsley as he wont do the tough yards. He's not seen when we stuck in our 20m zone and the likes of Amor and walmsley taking it twice in one set while he stood with his hands on hips.
Also, mugwamp or whatever he called needs to check another thread that's live at the moment on this board and see, it's not just me that thinks he's not pulling his weight.
Nothing irritates me more than lads running their blood to water while others stand there watching. When it's backs to the wall we need everyone chipping in.
He was brought in for his size and go forward but he might as well be 5ft and 12st with the effort he puts in.
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| Quote WidnesExile="WidnesExile"Let's put these into perspective though.
Firstly Mose always APPEARS to be second or third into a tackle does he get a T in the stats for that?
He is paid more than probably any other forward but does the least amount of minutes thus putting extra pressure on particularly Walmsley. Does this seem value for money?'"
All I'll say is he misses very few. For a guy who supposedly isn't interested.
If blame is to be attached to any forward I'd say Amor's name is a lot higher than Mose's. And given their ages and fitness compared with a Samoan blockbuster - I'd say neither Richards nor Thompson covered themselves with glory, either.
As for what Mose is or is not paid - neither you nor I have any idea. What I will say is that Mose's nature as an "impact forward" was determined long before he arrived at Saints. We knew what we were buying.
Mose has played long stretches in many games. Far longer than we had any right to expect. I'd prefer him playing 25-30 min stretches. Seems as though the coaching team does not.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"All I'll say is he misses very few. For a guy who supposedly isn't interested.
If blame is to be attached to any forward I'd say Amor's name is a lot higher than Mose's. And given their ages and fitness compared with a Samoan blockbuster - I'd say neither Richards nor Thompson covered themselves with glory, either.
As for what Mose is or is not paid - neither you nor I have any idea. What I will say is that Mose's nature as an "impact forward" was determined long before he arrived at Saints. We knew what we were buying.
Mose has played long stretches in many games. Far longer than we had any right to expect. I'd prefer him playing 25-30 min stretches. Seems as though the coaching team does not.'"
He did just under 30 mins in his first spell Monday.
So that's amor, Richards, Thompson and mose that "didn't cover themselves in glory" but isn't this by far the best pack in the world ?
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Let's just i know for fact he was on me if the players he was talking about. Fact!'"
Facts tend to be readable first and comprehensible second. This is neither.
Quote St peteStop following me around on here. If you got a problem lets talk face to face at hudds next week ?'"
YOU are the guy running around with my name in your quote, telling the Pies to ban me from their board etc.
Sure sounds like obsessed stalker behaviour to me. 
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Facts tend to be readable first and comprehensible second. This is neither.
YOU are the guy running around with my name in your quote, telling the Pies to ban me from their board etc.
Sure sounds like obsessed stalker behaviour to me.
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Seems the goons even think your total muppet.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"He did just under 30 mins in his first spell Monday.
So that's amor, Richards, Thompson and mose that "didn't cover themselves in glory" but isn't this by far the best pack in the world ?'"
Nope, I'd say Mose did ok.
What's instructive is the fact that you immediately pointed toward Mose as the culprit when it is patently obvious there were many worse performers. That's called - prejudice.
And you can keep pretending I said this is the "best pack in the world" as long as you like. It still doesn't make it true. 
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Seems the goons even think your total muppet.'"
Should I laugh or should I cry? 
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Nope, I'd say Mose did ok.
What's instructive is the fact that you immediately pointed toward Mose as the culprit when it is patently obvious there were many worse performers. That's called - prejudice.
And you can keep pretending I said this is the "best pack in the world" as long as you like. It still doesn't make it true.
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The op asked a question and I answered. Other posters mention Mose and other names but you didn't jump on them? No
The is another thread that at moment with other posters suggesting Mose doesn't pull his weight. Did you jump on them ? No
Your a muppet mate.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Should I laugh or should I cry?
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Do what you like, your still a muppet
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| Quote St pete="St pete"The op asked a question and I answered. Other posters mention Mose and other names but you didn't jump on them? No
The is another thread that at moment with other posters suggesting Mose doesn't pull his weight. Did you jump on them ? No '"
People are easily led. It only takes one person with a grudge to paint a target on some player's back and you can guarantee half of St. Helens will come running with spears and axes. And you are such a person.
I called you out last season for the same thing - despite the fact that Mose had effectively carried the heavy work in the pack for a third of the season (when he was gasping away dragging most of his weight and totally unfit).
Mercifully you were forced to shut up when Saints won the GF. But come the first sign of trouble and you are back to your old hobby horse with the tedious predictability of a Swiss clock.
Quote St peteYour a muppet mate.'"
And you are - wrong. 
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