Dr Cockrash probably truly believes they will be, but for Salford.

Disappointing, I was kinda hoping brown was gonna pull a rabbit out of the hat on this one ... Even if not a rabbit, how do the likes of Savelio and charnock not even make the 19 given we have so many out (especially in the forwards)? Anyway,

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I believe the plan with Savelio is to beast him doing close to 80 mins a game in the u19's to really raise his fitness. He'll then be used to effect at the end of the year when he's ready.

It's important to remember he barely played at all last year due to illness and injury so his fitness will have took a huge hit. I'm sure that come the business end of the season we will see him more often.

No offence, like, but that's just tosh. He played in the game against Leeds. That was one intense game. So now there is no excuse not to play him now, when we most need props who can make yards. We have none in our matchday squad now. Not one.

All things being equal then I would agree.

But given how low we are on resourse plans need to change or we will be out of the race when he becomes useful

He played less than 20 minutes against Leeds, in fact if I remember rightly it was a 12 minute spell.

It's certainly not tosh at all. I had an extended period of injury out and it took me a good while to get back up to match fitness with intensive training, I know this for a fact as it's from experience and fitness comes much easier to me than it would to somebody the size of Savelio.

What's your first hand experience of having an extended injury and then the time taken to regain match fitness? You must have a fair bit considering you branded my post 'tosh'. Or are you just making things up from a stand point of complete ignorance with no knowledge of the situation at all?

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Indeed. So if they are wanting to build up his fitness, they introduce him for longer spells in the first team not have him playing 80 minutes against lesser opposition. How does playing against lads smaller than him build up his ability to play against bigger blokes exactly?

I have played a lot of sport, thanks for asking.

We aren't discussing his ability to play against size, we're discussing his fitness. You simply can't put him in the first team for close to 80 minutes, you can in the U19's. In terms of FITNESS, which is pretty much an obsession in my life, 80 minutes in the U19's is far, far more beneficial than 20-30 in the first team.

Also, I didn't ask how much sport you played, I'm sure you have participated in a number of sports as have I. My question was, =#FF0000what is your first hand experience of having a long term injury and than working back to full match fitness in a game of Rugby League. That is the point we are discussing here.

Feel free to completely avoid the exact question again though, it'll confirm to me you have no experience of it and are talking out of your backside.

Why would we want him to play 80 minutes in the first team? I didn't suggest that at all!


Aerobic fitness maybe but not strength building or endurance come to think of it. Like Masoe, the only way Savelio is going to get fitter at first team level is to have gradually increasing spells playing in the first team.


Really? Ok. If you say so!

Neither did I, I was stating that he can play much longer minutes at U19's level



You've just contradicted yourself, aerobic fitness IS endurance. His endurance will increase far more over a long spell rather than short spells of intense bursts. Playing for less than 30 minutes will increase anaerobic fitness, this isn't the area that he needs to improve. You're more than welcome to get into a debate about how to increase fitness with me but I will embarrass you, it's a field I have a lot of experience in and I plan most of my week around my fitness regime.

Once again, the debate is not about strength building, this can be done in the gym. The discussion is about fitness.




I do say so and once again you avoided the question, not only that but you managed to make posts that are factually incorrect this time. Thanks for the conformation.

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