Strange that Jonesy played great last week but went missing this week, when is Percival due back he seems to have been out for ages.

And when Percival does come back its that pile of sh@t in the other centre that needs dropping, maybe a few weeks at Rochdale will do Turner some good because against Wigan, Cas and Hudds he as been nothing but disgusting in his performances. The way Bateman (one of the least athletic players ive seen) just went round him for the Burgess try was appalling centre play.

possibly contraversial, but i agree Turner had a fecking nightmare!
4/5 out of 10 today

watch the language....

I was not having a go at Jones. I thought he was fine, but just pointing out there were mistakes all over.

Thought Sia was less effective than normal. But I am not going to have people picking out one player when there were defensive errors all over the field.

Turner is a player that really really frustrates me!

If you look at him, he's a athlete and perfect for the centre. He's big, strong, fast, good hands and he CAN tackle when he wants to.

I can't can't describe on here what I mean so I'll try my best to put into words.


It's like he's half hearted and plays within himself. He will get the ball, show it, a gap opens but then he won't put the effort into it to go thru the gap, he will just plod and just get caught before he breaks the line.

Other weeks he looks up for it and breaks the line.

Same with his defence, some weeks nobody could beat him and he will put his body on the line with last ditch tackle but then he will grab at players for next 3 games.


It's like he's got all the tools but just can't or doesn't want to do it. I don't know if it's lack of interest or lack of confidence but I know he's got the ability.

Just look how soft he falls over that line today when the ball was ripped, it's like he's trying to break his fall instead of being crash bang in there.

Like I said, he really really frustrates me big time.

Spot on pal, i agree 100 percent with that.

It's hard to put into words what I mean without explaining in person but he does frustrate me big time.

"fecking"?

Karl Pryce was like that for us. You could see the talent, occasionally he was in the mood but most of the time he just plodded along in second gear.

Everytime I saw Masoe take up the ball he was always inside his own half.When Saints were attacking the play seemed to move away from him and Saints moved the ball to Wigans right side...Thought if Masoe would have charging up inside with ball in more attacking positions.....

It's actually very rare he takes a drive in our own 20 meter. He doesn't do the hard yards. It's also very rare he makes a one on one tackle, in fact I'm not sure one seen him make one at all.

We're using him wrong, completely wrong. He gets the ball when we're struggling, when we've barely made any metres and have no momentum. And he gets 10m. Where we need to have him getting the ball is when we've made a half break and got a quick play the ball, get him running at back tracking defenders rather than against 5 players coming forward primed to smash him.