Smith and Green are and always have been fall guys, Wigan will want to get their young guys in there at some point soon i.e. Powell, Hampshire, Williams.

From an England point of view it is actually quite exciting having some quality young halves playing for the same club.

Saints on the other hand are just after anyone who can play in the position, we have neither an experenced veteran or quality young half back at the club. It does highlight the difference between the two clubs at present.

No, Sam went to 6 and Richards to 1.
Thornley went to 5 and Hughes to 4.

Saints decided to move their 1st choice scrum half to full back and send their first choice stand off to Salford.
Missing Gaskell is a bit like Wigan say they are missing Hock.

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Who cares about Wigan on here anyway?

This is turning into a Wigan halfback thread.

It was the O/P who mentioned the Wigan halfbacks.

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Saints moved a full back playing scrum half to full back.

Saints sent their useless unneeded player off to Salford.

HTH

Thanks, so your first choice 1, 9 and 13 were all playing as I said.

Who mentioned Gaskell? Gary Wheeler is our first choice 6 when fit and will be again when he's fit.

What a thread.

As already stated, we are also missing Lomax from full back and Roby from the pack. Our two most dangerous players that are playing in pivot positions.

On the flip side, at least wigan have a first choice half back pairing. I'm not even sure we know what ours is - Wilkin and Wheeler?

Wigan will fare better than us, because they play with a very strong structure that they've established over the past two years, so the new lads will be able to just slip into the moves. As well as having first choice half backs, they probably even have second choce half backs to back them up. They also have a pack that plays as a unit instead of carrying 2 or 3 ambivilent old men.

Which is, in a round about way, the underlying point I was hinting at.

Managed to struggle through

And just to show it can be done, we also managed without the vital full back, hooker, loose forward and top points scoring winger tonight.

I'll admit it was only Widnes and it was a struggle.