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| When you are picking the top 1 there will always be a debate, but surely we can agree they are all quality
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| Quote: bewareshadows "When you are picking the top 1 there will always be a debate, but surely we can agree they are all quality'"
To be fair, Amor didn't do enough minutes last year because of injury. If he can get a season without much injury, then he'll be a big player in how 2015 turns out.
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| I don't think Amor is as good as Hill or Peacock yet, but given that he was a late bloomer I could imagine him being a genuinely top-line prop by the time he's 30.
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| Quote: Aboveusonlypie "So in your view is Amor better than Peacock or Hill?'"
I love Peacock but at his age there's no way I'd take him over Amor. Peacock is still for me, the best prop in the country, it's just his age that you have to take into account.
Hill is the next best in my view and Amor after that. A fit Amor is very high level. He was awesome for Saints prior to his injury last season. Your board didn't think he was good enough to even make your 17
Walmsley is top five as well. That starting front row of Amor, Roby and Walmsley is top class.
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| Quote: SLS "I love Peacock but at his age there's no way I'd take him over Amor. Peacock is still for me, the best prop in the country, it's just his age that you have to take into account.
Hill is the next best in my view and Amor after that. A fit Amor is very high level. He was awesome for Saints prior to his injury last season. Your board didn't think he was good enough to even make your 17
I think when assessing players from opposing teams it's easy to diminish them because you see them much less than your own. I honestly haven't seen enough of Amor at Saints to give an opinion. I know this though - He was excellent at Wakefield in his final season against us, a real handful, and I'm not surprised you rate him highly.
I would say that prop is England's strongest position. Graham is the best in the world, Burgess not far behind, and Hill has a side step and work rate possessed by very few props. Walmsley has impressed every time I see him.
For Wigan I would love Mossop to get fit and back to his best. He has won a lot in his short time at Wigan including international honours. He came almost out of nowhere in 2011 and he hasn't got a lot of miles on the clock, so has lots of potential.
I think Taylor will be a big loss. He could be as good as most of those mentioned.
I have high hopes for Ryan Sutton. I hope he gets plenty of early season game time as he doesn't seem overawed by anything.
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| Quote: Aboveusonlypie "So in your view is Amor better than Peacock or Hill?'"
No he's 100% not as good as those two but up until his injury he was getting up to there level but IMO he was pretty average after he lay off but I don't think he was 100% fit.
Who is better than those two ?
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| Quote: Top Saint "I'd say yes.
Peacock is so far past his best it's unreal.
Hill is a good solid prop as is Amor but I think Amor has the edge. Only for injuries last season he would have played for England, possibly instead of Hill.
All opinions I suppose but there you go.'"
Peacock just had a top class season. He IMO is still the best British prop playing in super league.
The guy is unreal!
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| Joe Burgess has signed for Sydney Roosters from 2016 onwards.
The selling club just keep on selling.
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Joe Burgess has signed for Sydney Roosters from 2016 onwards.
The selling club just keep on selling.'"
The sad thing is this isn't even selling, I wonder how the ego can cope with "the biggest name in rugby league" not being able to hold onto their own youngsters
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| Wigans plan of signing their youngsters on long contracts purely so they can get more cash for them has backfired as the kids have learnt to refuse the deal and they'll get more cash. Who can they sell to pay this year's rent?
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| Quote: Saint Simon "Wigans plan of signing their youngsters on long contracts purely so they can get more cash for them has backfired as the kids have learnt to refuse the deal and they'll get more cash. Who can they sell to pay this year's rent?'"
They're hoping for another baby boom in Marsh Green so they can cash in on hosting Christenings in the South Stand.
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| I'm not sure what Wigan could have done here tbh.
He was on a low deal as a youngster so once he was so impressive, he was always going to attract interest. Either they've got to recognise talent better and make sure they're on decent contracts before they put them in the shop window or they run this kind of risk. Of course, the other side is if you put him on a decent deal and he's crap, then you're wasting your pennies.
He's really screwed Wigan over here though. They've produced him and developed him. He's given them two seasons before buggering off for nothing. He could have signed a short deal and allowed Wigan some kind of pay off for their work with him.
I'd be annoyed if I were Wigan, I'd shove him in the reserves all season and play Manfredi.
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| Quote: SLS "I'm not sure what Wigan could have done here tbh.
He was on a low deal as a youngster so once he was so impressive, he was always going to attract interest. Either they've got to recognise talent better and make sure they're on decent contracts before they put them in the shop window or they run this kind of risk. Of course, the other side is if you put him on a decent deal and he's crap, then you're wasting your pennies.
He's really screwed Wigan over here though. They've produced him and developed him. He's given them two seasons before buggering off for nothing. He could have signed a short deal and allowed Wigan some kind of pay off for their work with him.
I'd be annoyed if I were Wigan, I'd shove him in the reserves all season and play Manfredi.'"
I actually thought he had another year left so you're right, not a lot more Wigan could have done really.
Ancient and disloyal.
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| Quote: SLS "I'm not sure what Wigan could have done here tbh.
He was on a low deal as a youngster so once he was so impressive, he was always going to attract interest. Either they've got to recognise talent better and make sure they're on decent contracts before they put them in the shop window or they run this kind of risk. Of course, the other side is if you put him on a decent deal and he's garbage, then you're wasting your pennies.
He's really screwed Wigan over here though. They've produced him and developed him. He's given them two seasons before going for nothing. He could have signed a short deal and allowed Wigan some kind of pay off for their work with him.
I'd be really annoyed if I were Wigan, I'd shove him in the reserves all season and play Manfredi.'"
I don't see why he owes Wigan anything. Development or not, he had a contract and fulfilled it? The alternate way of thinking is Wigan got a SL quality winger for a season for zilch on the cap. Any development costs are offset by a dramatic shortfall in salary (ask anyone on a graduate scheme!)
It'll be very interesting what Wigan do, I as a fan would want to see Manfredi put in, but there's no denying whose the more talented of the 2, and with it being so close next year is it worth the risk?
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "
Ancient and disloyal.'"
LOL @ THAT
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