You cant blame the pack when Lee as a bad game. The fact is every time he as been given a oppotunity at first team level over the last year and half he as failed to deliver. Wont take the line on, average kicking game and just does not see the runners running into gaps.

It is - he could have played well in the first team over the last 12 months or so.

Don't get caught up in the powers that be guff - Brown had him as first choice in the first three SL games and he was poor. Added to his at times dismal form last year, he got dropped.

He can only hide behind the poor pack argument for so long - eventually he has to actually show something or his place in the team is rightly at risk.

It is - he could have played well in the first team over the last 12 months or so.

Don't get caught up in the powers that be guff - Brown had him as first choice in the first three SL games and he was poor. Added to his at times dismal form last year, he got dropped.

He can only hide behind the poor pack argument for so long - eventually he has to actually show something or his place in the team is rightly at risk.

Gaskell was poor the three games he play this season and its his fault he ain't playing but when Gaskell got dropped last season he was one of the best player in 4 of the 6 games

You have a seriously selective memory, you really do. One eyed is definitely a good name for yourself!

He has hardly had any game time at all over the last year and a half when compared to Lomax, who not only played in every game last season and this but has had the benefit of working alongside an experienced player in the halves. Gaskell has not had that advantage at ANY time during his first grade experience and as a halfback that is vitally important.

And had he been playing in the first team for the last 12 months or so he might well have done. In fact, he did play well. He should never have been dropped originally last season.

However, you have never been a fan of Gaskell and so I expect you to write him off.

The whole team played atrociously in the first game and not much better in the next two but I didn't see anyone else getting dropped. How strange. Not.

I went to Wrexham yesterday and Gaskell was excellent so if he not pick this week then I think they is more to it then just form

Ive watched both Gaskell and Lomax since they was 14 year olds playing for blackbrook and Orrell respectively. Lomax is something special, someone you need to find a role in the team, unfortunately for him scrum half is the spot that opened up first. Gaskell on the other hand as done very well to be kept on after his scholarship contract, somebody that as punched above his weight for a few years. He was very good in 11 (which was a nice surprise) but since he as been non existent.

Lomax also probably played every game because he trains 100 percent, his diet is top notch and very rarely goes out on the lash with the lads and if he does you can often find him drinking wate, he is the model professional.. Gaskell, well i wont go there.

I'd love Gaskell be given another go and be world class but unfortunately it isent going to happen, as he quite simply is not and never will be 'class'.

Yes you did, Makinson did. Who was then given a oppotunity at the weekend and again, despite scoring. Did naff all.

Quote: One eyed monster "Yes you did, Makinson did. Who was then given a oppotunity at the weekend and again, despite scoring. Did naff all.'" Sorry got to take you up on that one. Makinson did Naff all??? I thought he was most improved since his spell out. He really ran the ball in hard just in the style that Ade has been doing. Also unlike Ade he is much more solid and dependable with the ball coming down. I've no doubt Ade will get more games this year, but I thought there was a marked improvement in Makinson's returning of the ball. Also the stats don't bear out your view on Makinson either.. When compared to Meli's stats in the same game Almost the same number of carries Similar average gain Same number of tackles less missed tackles etc as Backrow says Stats are the predator of the common troll, I'd say they are also the predator of the throw away remark. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=546605&tsmp=1363631946 I did think that Makinson was more improved before I saw either this thread or the stats thread. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=546453&tsmp=1363632264&start=40

Quote: One eyed monster "Yes you did, Makinson did. Who was then given a oppotunity at the weekend and again, despite scoring. Did naff all.'" Sorry got to take you up on that one. Makinson did Naff all??? I thought he was most improved since his spell out. He really ran the ball in hard just in the style that Ade has been doing. Also unlike Ade he is much more solid and dependable with the ball coming down. I've no doubt Ade will get more games this year, but I thought there was a marked improvement in Makinson's returning of the ball. Also the stats don't bear out your view on Makinson either.. When compared to Meli's stats in the same game Almost the same number of carries Similar average gain Same number of tackles less missed tackles etc as Backrow says Stats are the predator of the common troll, I'd say they are also the predator of the throw away remark. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=546605&tsmp=1363631946 I did think that Makinson was more improved before I saw either this thread or the stats thread. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=546453&tsmp=1363632264&start=40

Back on Gaskell, it makes sense to play him this week with Hohaia at 9. It'll be interesting to see how he does with a more experienced partner in Wilkin alongside him. If he continues to disappoint when given an opportunity then players like Swift who are waiting for an opportunity could step in.

According to the Saints Twitter feed, Swift is going to get the chance to play in the next couple of weeks so it looks like Gaskell won't be getting a chance anytime soon anyway.

How would you know how lomax train and what Gaskell diets like and if he goes out drinking or not you would have to work for the club

One eyed's dig at a Saints player should really bring a caution from the mods IMO because that is bringing a player's reputation into disrepute.