FORUMS > St. Helens > Rubbish |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 10399 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2016 | Jul 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
16208_1345534518.jpg [url=www.cater-bake.co.uk]Cater-Bake UK - Pizza and Bakery Equipment Specialists[/url]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16208.jpg |
|
| Quote: SaintsFan "Individual plays during the course of the match when facing an opposition by nature unpredictable are not going to be called by the coach. That is the job of the leader on the pitch. Normally that would likely be the scrum half, in terms of playmaking anyway, but ours is too inexperienced and prone to panic. '" Yes, once we're on the pitch, its the lads job to call the plays, but our problem isn't an innappropriate choice of play. We're not spreading the ball wide too early, nor is the problem that we're keeping it tight when it should go wide, we're not kicking short when we need to go long for territory. The problem is two fold - simple narrow moves close to the ruck are non existant whilst wide moves we call are slow and akward (not to mentioned having no space, thanks to the lack of narrow plays). I would suggest this is a training ground problem.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 29214 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
6310_1310045241.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6310.jpg |
|
| Wellens is the main issue in attack as we have to wait for him to catch up with play or attack with 12 men which makes it very easy to deal with.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 17417 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2015 | Mar 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Transparent Backgrounds/Kermit%20the%20Frog.gif Tweet from @martinoffiah 23/08/2011: 'Must admit i did love watching Saints- Cunningham Joynt Longy Tommy then Leon, last classic RL team ever'. Even the dark side can't help but love the rebellion.:Transparent Backgrounds/Kermit%20the%20Frog.gif |
|
| Quote: Billinge_Lump "He's not doing a very good job then and should take his fair share of the blame.'"
The entire coaching set up appears to be inferior to other top teams. Conditioning and injuries have been horrid since Apollo left, and I don't really have much faith in KP either.
Just read that Lomax and LMS are out injured this week, with Flannery and Clough doutbful. Soliola is probably out, but that is with a knee injury, not any facial injuries sustained in the attack.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 114 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2012 | Apr 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
66935_1332169707.gif [b:2o4b4zv9][color=#FF0080:2o4b4zv9]Born A Saint, Die A Saint ♥[/color:2o4b4zv9][/b:2o4b4zv9]
[b:2o4b4zv9][color=#FF00FF:2o4b4zv9]Red Vee Is A Part Of Me ♥[/color:2o4b4zv9][/b:2o4b4zv9]
[b:2o4b4zv9][color=#FF80BF:2o4b4zv9]Never Write Off The Saints ♥[/color:2o4b4zv9][/b:2o4b4zv9]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_66935.gif |
|
| Could be worse, we could have Bradford's injury total, and on top of that they have lost Sammut to suspension also. Let's just hope we get the 2 points. COYS ♥
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 4411 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2024 | Apr 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
4750_1435141111.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4750.jpg |
|
| I don't think being forced to mix things up in the halves will do us too much harm at this stage. I'd like to see a Wheeler/Gaskell combination, as that would give us a much healthier range of options on the last tackle. We will miss Sia though, and with Clough also unavailable we're going to need telling contributions from Laffranchi and Perry.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 10399 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2016 | Jul 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
16208_1345534518.jpg [url=www.cater-bake.co.uk]Cater-Bake UK - Pizza and Bakery Equipment Specialists[/url]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16208.jpg |
|
| Quote: Dux "I don't think being forced to mix things up in the halves will do us too much harm at this stage. I'd like to see a Wheeler/Gaskell combination, as that would give us a much healthier range of options on the last tackle. We will miss Sia though, and with Clough also unavailable we're going to need telling contributions from Laffranchi and Perry.'"
DO you think one of the 3 young props will get a chance?
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 4411 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2024 | Apr 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
4750_1435141111.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4750.jpg |
|
| Quote: Offside Monkey "DO you think one of the 3 young props will get a chance?'"
Possibly. I think most likely is that Magennis will get a call and do a short stint.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 10399 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2016 | Jul 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
16208_1345534518.jpg [url=www.cater-bake.co.uk]Cater-Bake UK - Pizza and Bakery Equipment Specialists[/url]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16208.jpg |
|
| Quote: Dux "Possibly. I think most likely is that Magennis will get a call and do a short stint.'"
Thought he was injured.
I'm not his biggest fan, but he is a little different in his play, so he may mix things up a bit. I'd like to see Forster get a run out, though, and the bulls are missing a bit of weight through injury at the moment, so it may be a good time (assuming he's ok to play after his involvement in Sunday's tribulations).
A break wil do Lomax good, let him watch a couple of games and think about his own play. He'll hopefully comeback refreshed.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 4411 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2024 | Apr 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
4750_1435141111.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4750.jpg |
|
| Quote: Offside Monkey "Thought he was injured.
I'm not his biggest fan, but he is a little different in his play, so he may mix things up a bit. I'd like to see Forster get a run out, though, and the bulls are missing a bit of weight through injury at the moment, so it may be a good time (assuming he's ok to play after his involvement in Sunday's tribulations).
A break wil do Lomax good, let him watch a couple of games and think about his own play. He'll hopefully comeback refreshed.'"
Flanagan returning will be a help in defence. At Huddersfield he was defending tight in to the ruck, and was hitting very hard indeed.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 27757 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2021 | May 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
34_1430670222.jpg [url=http://wp.me/p1ImSi-n8:8gr6akfh][b:8gr6akfh]An Ode to Sepp Blatter[/b:8gr6akfh][/url:8gr6akfh]
[url=http://wp.me/s1ImSi-dadbod:8gr6akfh][b:8gr6akfh]Dadbod[/b:8gr6akfh][/url:8gr6akfh]
[url=http://wp.me/p1ImSi-mK:8gr6akfh][b:8gr6akfh]Next In Line To The Throne[/b:8gr6akfh][/url:8gr6akfh]
[url=https://mcclennan.wordpress.com/2014/10/12/st-helens-and-a-fitting-end-to-a-season-of-unsung-heroes/:8gr6akfh][b:8gr6akfh]St Helens and a Fitting End to a Season of Unsung Heroes[/b:8gr6akfh][/url:8gr6akfh]
[url=https://twitter.com/cinematicsoul:8gr6akfh][b:8gr6akfh]Follow my wisdom on Twitter[/b:8gr6akfh][/url:8gr6akfh]
[url=http://wp.me/p1ImSi-aA:8gr6akfh][b:8gr6akfh]Top 100 films of the 00s - The Top 5[/b:8gr6akfh][/url:8gr6akfh]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34.jpg |
|
| Quote: Dux "I don't think being forced to mix things up in the halves will do us too much harm at this stage. I'd like to see a Wheeler/Gaskell combination, as that would give us a much healthier range of options on the last tackle. '"
I'd agree with that. Put Lomax/Lance at full back.
As for the team's performances in general, I don't really see the point in saying anything yet. We've lost a couple of games we could have won on another day and more importantly we did the same thing last year before finishing up in a Grand Final that we should have won. Last year my concern was that the defence went backwards and nothing this year has convinced me that this has been addressed. Again, that was said last year and when it came to later in the season we were competitive on both sides of the ball albeit not that outstanding defensively (we did enough).
We've got some tough games coming up over the next six weeks or so and perhaps we'll have a better idea of where we're heading by then. It's all about confidence again. Had we taken the points against Catalans I'm sure the team would have felt strong enough to beat Huddersfield and Hull. We may miss Roby but we should have beaten Hull and could have been Huddersfield despite him going off. The season is a long way from being lost and as disappointing a start as it has been we've been here before with other sides and other coaches too so let's keep it rational and keep our heads.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 4411 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2024 | Apr 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
4750_1435141111.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4750.jpg |
|
| Quote: McClennan "I'd agree with that. Put Lomax/Lance at full back.'"
Alas, we're not going to have that luxury, as Lomax is injured and Lance will be busy at hooker. For the time being we'll have to persist with Wellens.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 10399 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2016 | Jul 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
16208_1345534518.jpg [url=www.cater-bake.co.uk]Cater-Bake UK - Pizza and Bakery Equipment Specialists[/url]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16208.jpg |
|
| Quote: Dux "Alas, we're not going to have that luxury, as Lomax is injured and Lance will be busy at hooker. For the time being we'll have to persist with Wellens.'"
But, if Wheels performs in the halves, it may force an issue when Lomax retuns to fitness?
It will be interesting to see if Gaskell stays at 2nd recevier or whether he'll move in to the ruck, or perhaps they'll play more left/right.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 5852 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Jun 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Ahh Tesco
Building St Helens & Warrington's future
Destroying Wigans past
"Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower": |
|
| Bump rubbish again
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1343 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2014 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
52961_1317652331.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_52961.jpg |
|
| I must admit even I'm starting to get a tiny little bit worried now... We may only need another 10 or 11 wins over the next 6 months, but you start to wonder where those wins might come from at this rate...
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 114 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2012 | Apr 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
66935_1332169707.gif [b:2o4b4zv9][color=#FF0080:2o4b4zv9]Born A Saint, Die A Saint ♥[/color:2o4b4zv9][/b:2o4b4zv9]
[b:2o4b4zv9][color=#FF00FF:2o4b4zv9]Red Vee Is A Part Of Me ♥[/color:2o4b4zv9][/b:2o4b4zv9]
[b:2o4b4zv9][color=#FF80BF:2o4b4zv9]Never Write Off The Saints ♥[/color:2o4b4zv9][/b:2o4b4zv9]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_66935.gif |
|
| Quote: Northampton_Saint "I must admit even I'm starting to get a tiny little bit worried now... We may only need another 10 or 11 wins over the next 6 months, but you start to wonder where those wins might come from at this rate...'"
I second that.
|
|
|
|
|
|