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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: Tony Stark "Knowing the board I would highly doubt it would be as much as you think between the two salaries, LMS will undoubtably be on slightly more due to a number of factors but I would wager it won't be that much more.
Having said that i'm guessing LMS came to us with more first team starts under his belt and as a player still very much wanted by his club whereas I got the opinion Bryn certainly didn't feel wanted by Wigan at the time.
I think Louie is more of an athlete and could play a role similar to TP later down the line, IF he progresses.'"
Wigan had three young props, Prescott, Hargreaves and O'Carroll. At the time they made the correct decision to let Hargreaves go, but then O'Carroll got that injury that has kept him out of the game for over twelve months.
I guess that's sport for you.
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| While we didn't get the calls tonight, and one or two calls were dodgy to say the least, they weren't the reason we lost IMO. We came with a much, much better attitude than we had against Wigan. However, our defence was poor again, we lost our composure again (meaning brainfarts) and we dropped too much ball again.
Having said all that, I was anticipating a loss and so I am not feeling the shock of last week. I thought it was quite sad that we lost tonight actually when clearly we did actually have the ability to win. Had those things that I just listed not been a part of our game.
We aren't ready to beat the teams above us. Maybe this season we won't be. Or maybe we will. Still nine games to go to find out, I guess.
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52564_1283507926.jpg [quote="JWP":1jw53b9f]At the end of the day mate, we've stuck with the minger from school and she's turned out to be a stunner, so don't try and nick her off us, y'know, we've waited a long time for this, took the laughs along the way etc. You, you took the one who had big knockers by the 3rd year and you've had your fun but now sadly it's all looking a bit rough around the edges now, tough.[/quote:1jw53b9f]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_52564.jpg |
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| just like to say that you as fans were great today stayed to the end even after the drop goal by briers. well done. a lot of teams fans would have started to walk (not mentioning any names) but not you, great support for your team.
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| You are adding nothing to this thread. If you have nothing constructive to say, don't say anything.
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| We where decent, but not great. No one should win after giving an 18 - 0 head start. Other than 10 mins we where good. But that's the same as saying apart from losing we would have won.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "While we didn't get the calls tonight, and one or two calls were dodgy to say the least, they weren't the reason we lost IMO. We came with a much, much better attitude than we had against Wigan. However, our defence was poor again, we lost our composure again (meaning brainfarts) and we dropped too much ball again.
Having said all that, I was anticipating a loss and so I am not feeling the shock of last week. I thought it was quite sad that we lost tonight actually when clearly we did actually have the ability to win. Had those things that I just listed not been a part of our game.
We aren't ready to beat the teams above us. Maybe this season we won't be. Or maybe we will. Still nine games to go to find out, I guess.'"
Dodgy calls? Dreaming love. Silverwood piggy backed you up the field most of the time. Granted, you made use of the field position brilliantly against the leagues best defence. But don't make out you had a rough day from the ref.
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| Quote: Nikaed "Dodgy calls? Dreaming love. Silverwood piggy backed you up the field most of the time. Granted, you made use of the field position brilliantly against the leagues best defence. But don't make out you had a rough day from the ref.'"
Er, I didn't. I was saying that it wasn't the ref who was the problem, as you would know if you read the first sentence of my post.
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| Quote: Nikaed "Dodgy calls? Dreaming love. Silverwood piggy backed you up the field most of the time. Granted, you made use of the field position brilliantly against the leagues best defence. But don't make out you had a rough day from the ref.'"
I see you are using the penalty count 1 in your favour to say we got the calls from the ref again.
Are you just ignoring the penalties you got which gave you field position to score????
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Well hopefully we wont 'fix' it the way you did.'"
Don't forget back then you were too busy breaking the salary cap anyway.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Pretty much everyone but smith thought so.'"
I really didn't think it was obstruction, for me it was a fair try, the unfortunate thing is the amount that get disallowed wrongly over the season.
Lomax at Bradford being a recent case.
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| Quote: Bazzer b cherry and white "can't shout for the stains but........havin a good laugh @ wAnky wire
What a prize chump. Masterclass in how to make yourself look an idiot. Hope your enjoyed your brief little laugh.
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| Quote: Hilty "I really didn't think it was obstruction, for me it was a fair try, the unfortunate thing is the amount that get disallowed wrongly over the season.
Lomax at Bradford being a recent case.'"
It's difficult to say if it is or isnt I suppose (being as the rules seem to change every year) but it seems funny that whenever we get Ian Smith he 'interprets' them in whatever way most disadvantages Saints.
In my simple view of 'obstruction' though the question is simple, was Meli obstructed from making a challenge and in my view he was.
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| Id like to see Saints make the 8th though to be honest. Reckon they'd offer more than what, say, Salford would offer.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "In my simple view of 'obstruction' though the question is simple, was Meli obstructed from making a challenge and in my view he was.'"
Having just watched the match back, I would agree with you. But it was Smith as VR and there was no way he was going to give us anything. He's probably still seeing Daniel Anderson in his dreams.
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| Quote: Saddened! "I don't mind the decision, but I just wish we had some consistency. The one at Bradford that was denied was identical to that. In that case the dummy runner was Ashurst who was ambling along and brushed the Bradford defender. He recovered and got an unsuccessful tackle in on Lomax who scored. Disallowed as the runner had made contact.
Tonight the runner ran at the defensive line, he didn't target a gap, he ran at whoever was inside Meli. Meli was also drawn to him and he hit both players, causing the try. You can interpret it two ways, either a poor read by Meli and give the try, but you cannot give it a different way to the way you interpreted an identical incident in a game a couple of weeks previously.
Inconsistency is a major issue in SL. Look at Foster on Monaghan. Players sliding on the wet grass, Foster spins him out. Penalty given. Second half, truly identical incident Monaghan on Foster. Scrum to defense given. It's times like those that just make you want to grab the idiotic b"%^$"%$" and knock him onto Tesco carpark. The key decisions tonight you could argue were 50
it really wasn't, and theres not point going into it any further since its you.
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