FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > St. Helens > Bentham ........
189 posts in 14 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , BackrowSaint
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner5848No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2017Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Judder Man "These statements are a load of rubbish'"


funny that I was thinking exactly the same about yours.

Excert from Page 36

SECTION 14

OFF SIDE

When offside 1. A player is off side except when he is in his own ingoal
if the ball touches, is touched, held or kicked, by
one of his own team behind him.

Bentham clearly interprets this as a reference to the ball being the relevant marker not the relative postion of the two players.

I cant find any reference to your assertion that players have to be behind the kicker as oppossed to the ball.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4096
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2018Nov 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



What gets me is that sky have all this technology that can show if football players off side by using computer generated lines across the pitch. They can show where a 5" leather ball pitches and predict if it would hit the wickets in cricket. Christ, even the BBC can show u if a 4" tennis ball lands on a 2" white line.

Yet we are to believe that there is insufficient technology available to allow video refs to decide on off sides in RL. Give me a break.

It wasn't that decision that cost us the game, but it could have been.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner29214No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: DoubleAone "funny that I was thinking exactly the same about yours.

Excert from Page 36

SECTION 14

OFF SIDE

When offside 1. A player is off side except when he is in his own ingoal
if the ball touches, is touched, held or kicked, by
one of his own team behind him.

Bentham clearly interprets this as a reference to the ball being the relevant marker not the relative postion of the two players.

I cant find any reference to your assertion that players have to be behind the kicker as oppossed to the ball.'"


Whatever rule it was using it was wrong. But lets forget that now.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member2898No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2015May 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: DoubleAone "funny that I was thinking exactly the same about yours.

Excert from Page 36

SECTION 14

OFF SIDE

When offside 1. A player is off side except when he is in his own ingoal
if the ball touches, is touched, held or kicked, by
one of his own team behind him.

Bentham clearly interprets this as a reference to the ball being the relevant marker not the relative postion of the two players.

I cant find any reference to your assertion that players have to be behind the kicker as oppossed to the ball.'"


Then he and you interpreted it wrong! Read it again it might sink in icon_confused.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner5848No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2017Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: The Black Cat "Then he and you interpreted it wrong! Read it again it might sink in
why do I need to read it again it will not become any different. It is clearly open to interpretation and the CORRECT one apperently isnt yours. icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1470
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 1970Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



What saddens me is we have the technology but idiots using it>

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3254No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: The Black Cat "Am I blind or are there just idiots posting on this thread? It was offside end of! Forget whether he looks in front or behind, forget the nonsensical rule that doesn't exist that he was behind the ball as well. You only have to look who was nearest to the ten meter line and see it was McGuire and therefor Smith offside. Ruined a good game for which Saints could still have won!'"


Agree on that point...but surely its where McGuires foot is when kicking the ball that is the important point? On the freeze frame you can just make out the edge of the ball just beyond the Saints defenders leg and drawing a line along that point to Smith I reckon he's level,hence why Bentham gave the try.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7069
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2023Dec 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: The Chief "What gets me is that sky have all this technology that can show if football players off side by using computer generated lines across the pitch.'"
Quote: The Chief "No their wasn't, both feet were behind the ball as it was kicked.

'"
nicked from the Leeds board just for you! conclusive evidence it was a try

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1470
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 1970Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Lol, that line isn't even properly parallel to the 10 metre line so that's cr@p for a start off.
Offside should have been the decision & no there was no doubt about it.
If you check other VR decisions for offsides they are decided with regard to where the feet of the kicker & chaser are, not the ball.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach19234No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Feb 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Lol, that line isn't even properly parallel to the 10 metre line so that's cr@p for a start off.
Offside should have been the decision & no there was no doubt about it.
If you check other VR decisions for offsides they are decided with regard to where the feet of the kicker & chaser are, not the ball.'"

Smiths feet are behind the ball which is the reason it was given but ATEOD we won get over it!!!!!!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7069
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2023Dec 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Lol, that line isn't even properly parallel to the 10 metre line so that's cr@p for a start off.
Offside should have been the decision & no there was no doubt about it.
If you check other VR decisions for offsides they are decided with regard to where the feet of the kicker & chaser are, not the ball.'"
you really need to get over it! we all accept the call was a 50/50 and as with most vid ref calls they can and do go either way! To say there should have Been only one out come to the referral is nieve, blinkered and down right ignorant!

You are just not gonna have it that Bentham refed it to the letter of the law. Instead you think you have been robbed.

Most fans dont have a real clue what rules the refs are using as the only feedback we get most of the time is what the idiots on sky or the BBC tell us. Bentham gave the reason for his decision(both the players feet were behind the ball, which they were) and those sky fools just ignored the refs feedback via the director!

Thats why people like you are posting this crap, you dont know the rules! You only think you do. Your ignorance is painful! your own players don't have a problem with it. Why? Because they know the rules.

As you say that red line might not be 100% but it shows you it was increadibly tight! And noway can you rule it out without doubt! It's a stone wall 50/50 it went Leeds way.

dry your eyes mate!
I know it's hard to take!
I know how much the pain hurts!
But it's over!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2666No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Dec 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: sgtwilko "you really need to get over it! we all accept the call was a 50/50 and as with most vid ref calls they can and do go either way! To say there should have Been only one out come to the referral is nieve, blinkered and down right ignorant!

You are just not gonna have it that Bentham refed it to the letter of the law. Instead you think you have been robbed.

Most fans dont have a real clue what rules the refs are using as the only feedback we get most of the time is what the idiots on sky or the BBC tell us. Bentham gave the reason for his decision(both the players feet were behind the ball, which they were) and those sky fools just ignored the refs feedback via the director!

Thats why people like you are posting this crap, you dont know the rules! You only think you do. Your ignorance is painful! your own players don't have a problem with it. Why? Because they know the rules.

As you say that red line might not be 100% but it shows you it was increadibly tight! And noway can you rule it out without doubt! It's a stone wall 50/50 it went Leeds way.

dry your eyes mate!
I know it's hard to take!
I know how much the pain hurts!
But it's over!'"




ill tell you what pal..if that had been the other way round and it had been saints who scored the try..you'd have been on here now screaming blue murder..trouble is though if it had been us he would have disallowed it...we all know the little fart leans to leeds.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach19234No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Feb 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: RIGSBY "ill tell you what pal..if that had been the other way round and it had been saints who scored the try..you'd have been on here now screaming blue murder..trouble is though if it had been us he would have disallowed it...we all know the little fart leans to leeds.'"

You've obviously not watched any leeds games that bentham and ganson have reffed this year.
Don't play the "woah is me" card we deserved to win and lets not forget the penalty against senior for the invisible barge!!
It was a tough call but when the reason was explained and you see the different angles and viewpoints without listening to the saints cheerleading squad in commentry it was a try!

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member421No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2012Jul 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Lol, that line isn't even properly parallel to the 10 metre line so that's cr@p for a start off.
Offside should have been the decision & no there was no doubt about it.
If you check other VR decisions for offsides they are decided with regard to where the feet of the kicker & chaser are, not the ball.'"


Well clearly there was doubt wasn't there given the amount of time Bentham looked at the try.

Like I said before given the absence of the overhead shot which was obscured there was no other course of action possible other than to award the try. From some view it looked on/from some views it looked off.

Going back to teh Eastmond try that was disallowed, ignoring the tackle by Sinfield but the issue of whether the foot was in touch/not was the same. By some angles it looked in touch and by some it didn't. Had sinfield not made the tackle that try would have had to have been awarded

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner5633No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2012Sep 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Adrian Monk "Dont blame the decision. We made our OWN mistakes. Silly offload by Maurie and Shocking defence from Hargreaves cost us the game.

Leeds where the Best team for 45 minutes. They deserved the win. We had them in our pocket at 8 - 0 but silly mistakes cost us.'"




can i throw in the name MELI too .....

189 posts in 14 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , BackrowSaint
189 posts in 14 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , BackrowSaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


26.5810546875:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
19m
New Kit
Cokey
70
20m
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
25m
Fixtures 2025
Wigan Bull
10
38m
Film game
Boss Hog
5765
45m
Transfer Talk V5
Seth
517
Recent
Ground Improvements
phe13
198
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Theeaststand
4048
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
HU8HFC
5588
Recent
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
23s
Pre Season - 2025
Hullrealist
191
35s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63268
40s
Fixtures 2025
Wigan Bull
10
1m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
NickyKiss
9
1m
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
1m
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
1m
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
2m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
212
2m
Salford
Smiffy27
59
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
TODAY
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS