It can happen quicker than 3yrs if the club are willing to back the new coach and be brave in transfer and recruitment. Hull backed Radford last year and it's put them back in the mix in a season due to good signings.

If the new coach can bring in 4/5 good players and dump some of the crap then it doesn't take long but if the club carry on with mediocre signings then he will take along time.

How strange that once was a worthless hubcap now takes pride of place in the dire camp.

TS took over at Wire in 2009 & we were awful and had been for years. In 2009 we won the CC &e again in 2010 when we finished 3rd. In 2011 we were awesome and the same in 2012 (when we again won the CC). So it took TS 2 years to turn us around, but as St Pete says in needs an experienced coach to turn a poor team around.

So it might take 3 years as I suggested if an inexperienced coach was in place....oh wait

Furthermore, if we try and dump players they still count on the cap in most of the circumstances as far as I can see. Therefore you cant bring any player in of significance who will make a difference and would command a tidy salary if theres not enough cap left. It'll in effect be 1 out 1 in unless he groups funds together in some creative way. He'll simply be governed by those contracts that will expire rather than choosing those he wants to leave. I stand by my first point, we're 3 years away from stability and more years to re-establish in the top 4.

I think that Fatbelly actually agreed with you regarding the inexperienced/experienced coach in his post, but, have it your own way

StPete knew who the coach was before his post and suggested it could be turned round if the club gave its backing, knowing he's inexperienced & certainly in U.K. reinforced by Fatbelly (sort of), I maintain my point and position thanks

Funny how Matty Smith is always the scape goat when times are bad. He wasn't the scapegoat on his return from injury this season and kicked us all over the park and commanded the game. then again, during that game your forwards were steam rollering our pack which allowed your backs to do whatever they wanted.

How you expect Smith or Fages to do anything with that team when your pack gives up after half time is beyond me. Watching the game back its only Makinson, Roby & Smith who were running round screaming and playing like they wanted it. He used to cop the same treatment from the blind pie species when their pack rolled over an all. Wire fans have said the same about Gidley but when he plays behind a solid pack he looks like a super star. Matty has one of the best kicking games in the league but its hard to kick when youre put under the defensive pressure we showed on Friday.

And as for Luke Walsh, well from a neutral outsiders point of view he was a poophouse of the highest order. In one game he made 5 tackles and has tackled twice. Wow. He was only there to kick. you're far better off without him.

The team you put out on Friday was basically the team that hammered us at your place. We just ran that little bit harder, tightened up our defence and got a few lucky bounces from errors caused from quick line speed. Nothing more nothing less.

I get the fact that Percy is a very good player,but come on he is as error prone as the rest of the team and when you watch him closely he is very greedy and often cuts inside when the pass is on. As for Fages not being good enough are you watching the same player as the rest of us ?

I get the fact that Percy is a very good player,but come on he is as error prone as the rest of the team and when you watch him closely he is very greedy and often cuts inside when the pass is on. As for Fages not being good enough are you watching the same player as the rest of us ?