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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"I think so, as you know KC is quiet speaking and being dropped in the deep end as rookie coach I get the feeling he's still has a mindset of 70% coach 30% player. Its going to take another season for him to have more influence on players tactic and discipline wise.
He is as you suggested earlier, learning by his mistakes if we were mid table its obviously a concern but I think Superleague is so up and down KC can get away with building up his learning curve, the problem is Saints fans want it "NOW", good coach and good players at the same time is a difficult one these days.
At the moment my concern is that KC has no advisory and he might drop into a blinkered state, perhaps Millward can open up some technical options.'"
Funny you should say how quite he speaks as someone at the club jokingly said that potter talks louder than him and that's saying something.
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| I did not want KC last year I think you have to move away to show your worth in a side with less resources.
I really wanted us to bid for Powell.
However now KC is in charge.we are comfortably in the top 3 and made a semifinal. Probably the 2nd best team in the cc and would have beaten anyone but Leeds. And we were not far off them.
Warrington showed what a hammering by Leeds is really like.
Calling for the coach 6 months in for what in any other business would be a good set of half year results is crazy.
But we need to start looking outwards. I get the loyalty but we are looking very insular on the backroom staff. New ideas come from difference not everyone knowing the same stuff.
Even at Liverpool with their famous backroom staff it was not everyone, just a few with experience brought in from elsewhere.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"I did not want KC last year I think you have to move away to show your worth in a side with less resources.
I really wanted us to bid for Powell.
However now KC is in charge.we are comfortably in the top 3 and made a semifinal. Probably the 2nd best team in the cc and would have beaten anyone but Leeds. And we were not far off them.
Warrington showed what a hammering by Leeds is really like.
Calling for the coach 6 months in for what in any other business would be a good set of half year results is crazy.
But we need to start looking outwards. I get the loyalty but we are looking very insular on the backroom staff. New ideas come from difference not everyone knowing the same stuff.
Even at Liverpool with their famous backroom staff it was not everyone, just a few with experience brought in from elsewhere.'"
I for one don't want him sacked yet. After all we are 3rd and got to the semi as you say. I didn't want KC In the first place as I suspected this due to him never ever coaching a team in the past. Id liked us to have brought a old head in as coach for two years so he's learning his trade as assistant and not learning his trade as first team coach.
I'm more worried for next year as we ain't going in the right direction with recruitment/retention.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"
However now KC is in charge.we are comfortably in the top 3 and made a semifinal. Probably the 2nd best team in the cc and would have beaten anyone but Leeds. And we were not far off them.
Warrington showed what a hammering by Leeds is really like.
Calling for the coach 6 months in for what in any other business would be a good set of half year results is crazy.
But we need to start looking outwards. I get the loyalty but we are looking very insular on the backroom staff. New ideas come from difference not everyone knowing the same stuff.
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I agree, we are looking insular, we need an advisory someone outside looking in like a Sheens, Bennet, Anderson, Millward to assess and open up the game plan structure. Its a frustrating one for saints fans having to deal with performance and game plan inconsistency.
Its like you said crazy to throw the towel in with KC, his mental toughness is being tested but he's not one for giving up and he's got 6 games to turn things around.
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| I'd give him 2 years. But the rest of the coaching can be moved around in the off season.
If KC wants to coach the attacking side then as a left field suggtion why not Harris on defence.
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"I agree, we are looking insular, we need an advisory someone outside looking in like a Sheens, Bennet, Anderson, Millward to assess and open up the game plan structure. Its a frustrating one for saints fans having to deal with performance and game plan inconsistency.
Its like you said crazy to throw the towel in with KC, his mental toughness is being tested but he's not one for giving up and he's got 6 games to turn things around.'"
In principle I agree with you but if we do that is it not an outward indication that he needs help? If we had done that from the off then I think it would have been fine but to bring someone on now would probably be perceived as a slap in the face to KC.
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| Quote Allez="Allez"In principle I agree with you but if we do that is it not an outward indication that he needs help? If we had done that from the off then I think it would have been fine but to bring someone on now would probably be perceived as a slap in the face to KC.'"
It probably dependant hows its done man management wise to not undermine his authority, he's self critical anyway so knows he's got a lot to learn. Would like to see him and the coaching staff go off to OZ for a short spell off season similar to a McBanana scenario.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Funny you should say how quite he speaks as someone at the club jokingly said that potter talks louder than him and that's saying something.'"
I thought Potter was a waste of space to be honest, caught him a few times texting on his mobile phone quite a few times during game in play.
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"I thought Potter was a waste of space to be honest, caught him a few times texting on his mobile phone quite a few times during game in play.'"
I was pleased when we got him as he'd done good job at catalan just got coach of the year. He just didn't fit. He didn't seem at home at saints. Even his interviews he never used the word "us" it was always they etc. I just don't think he suited us and vice versa
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| I know LMS was missing for the Cats game (Wife Expecting) but didn't realise Turner was missing in the 17 , is he injured!!
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| I've gone right off Cunningham. He is dragging the club down with some of his comments and lack of responsibility for poor displays. His comments in the trade papers about the officials influencing the semi against Leeds smacked of sour grapes. He is modelling himself too much on his pal over at the Goons but just comes across as a "poor man's Shaun Wane". He needs to learn how to lose in a more gracious manner and accept that his own performance could do with some tweaking rather than his players and the officials.
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| Quote leeds owl="leeds owl"I've gone right off Cunningham. He is dragging the club down with some of his comments and lack of responsibility for poor displays. His comments in the trade papers about the officials influencing the semi against Leeds smacked of sour grapes. He is modelling himself too much on his pal over at the Goons but just comes across as a "poor man's Shaun Wane". He needs to learn how to lose in a more gracious manner and accept that his own performance could do with some tweaking rather than his players and the officials.'"
I didn't see any comments after the semi I didn't think the beeb bothered to interview him.
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