I have got to agree with you on Mose in that he will be missed next year. The intimidation factor is one thing that is not measured in any compiled stats & Mose Masoe brings this to the table in bucket loads. The tackle and then follow through on McIllorum during the recent Wigan game being a prime example of 'showing who is boss' against the oppositions most aggressive player and not just picking on the easy targets will be missed by his current team mates next year.

i think he is under valued and is not as bad as he is made out to be.

Simply put, he is a game changer. In big games people like Mose will pull something out of nothing.

I was hoping Savellio would do that in years to come along side Percival in the Centre.

And that's unacceptable in a Saints shirt mate.

Don't listen to these idiots who barely manage a dozen functioning brain cells between the lot of them.

They would have you believe that a player who has strung together FIFTY CONSECUTIVE GAMES is "lazy" - yet for some mysterious reason has never been dropped (whilst other players have been dropped for any number of reasons).

Not one of them has ever produced a satisfactory explanation for the above - other than "Keiron's confused" or "want's to give him a chance". Utterly ridiculous.

If there is such a thing as a "lazy" professional rugby league player then Kevin Iro was lazy. Tommy Martyn was lazy. Paul Newlove was lazy.

I assume we should have dropped the lot of them too.

I can honestly say that Mose has won us games, I can't recall any that he has lost for us. There are a couple on here who will be glad to see him go. They can join all the forwards in super league with the same line of thought.

Don,t think there are many fans on here who are hypo critical, not sure if St Pete has seen enough games with Mose or its a stubborn blinkered opinion with zero tolerance.
St Pete will always be the first one in if he plays with little effect and probably the last one to praise him if he plays well, its a similar thing with Turner as well.
I should imagine a lot of fans watch Mose,s game a bit deeper these days, his first stint is usually "the lazy one" where he doesn,t get the opportunity to do many carries, used as a decoy and the pass goes behind him to a follow up player.
Mose has been quite good for a few months now, he,s building up effectiveness quite nicely towards the play offs.

That's BS!

I've praised him when I think he's played well. I started a thread last season saying how well he had been playing.

I just don't get caught up in all the samoan love in with him. If he was signed as a english man from leigh he would be slated for being fat, unfit and lazy.

When he's up for it, he's good, when he's not he's awful. 8 mins from a pro rugby player is utter shocking.

He did pretty much the same last season. Truth is we need him. Losing Greenwood and Vea placed a hell of a burden on the rest of the lads and both Walmsley and Amor have looked a little jaded recently.

Mose SHOULD HAVE won us the game against Castleford. That big drive he put in on fourth tackle with ninety seconds to go took us from our own half to within drop-goal range. Had we not made a total hash of the execution it would have been another game in Mose's pocket.

It remains to be seen whether Tasi or Haggerty can approach anything like that kind of influence.

Not surprised, they have to do more minutes to make up for Mose

They certainly have a lot more appearances to make up on Mose. Guess he's just that bit tougher.

He might have played more games than Walmsley and Amor but I bet you they've played far more minutes, made far more tackles and far more carries for the team than Mose.