The ban starts in the off season. You can't write this .

It's 10 SL games plus 3 friendlies in effect. I don't think anyone can reasonably complain at the severity - for me 8 games total would have been punishment enough but there you go. If this had been an untelevised offence then hed've gotten 5 or 6 maximum and no one would have gotten too angry at it.

Very clever is our McManus, I,m sure there is some hidden suggestion there that circumstances leading up to the incident needs to be addressed i.e. Wigan need to evaluate there " technique to injure" policy.

It needed saying

Does anyone else think Mr Mac might get into trouble from the RFL for such a critical statement about the officiating and disciplinary? Not suggesting he's not right but they don't like it when people point out how poor they are.

Must say I don't really see Flower as an emotionally vulnerable 25 year old "boy".

I think there's a pretty heft dig at the culture at Wigan and the attitude the players are perhaps sent onto the field with in that statement.

Sensible ban and a sensible statement from Sir Mac.

I think that was a belittlement from McManus from a victorious position of authority. McManus is a master of words.

He's actually missing 11 league games

Is it a full ban from the day of the incident? ie 10/10/14 - 10/04/14

Or from October to April

If it's just to April, then eh em it's Good Friday 1st game back.

Ps if you look there were a few Wiganers who were cited this week.

6 months from today I believe.

Banned from all club related rugby activity until 14th April 2015.

Including training etc?

All club activity? So no training with the team till 15th of April? That's really like a 7/8 month ban in reality