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| Quote: TheSaints87 "If you sit in the South stand you can walk round into the Notth'"
They are both seated stands so that doesn't matter. It was people coming from the seated stands and cramming out the West, where it is nigh on impossible to check on numbers, that resulted in the closure off of the concourse. Shame, as being able to walk to another bar would have been very helpful as the west stand bar has been a nightmare ever since the stadium opened (although they have now started serving at the second west stand bar as well, which seems to help).
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| Quote: TheSaints87 "It's weird, there are barriers up but only between certain stands. You can't get to the West from the North, but can get from the South to the West.'"
It's always been a gripe of mine. An issue overshadowed by the cladding of course. For me it was another elf and safety over reaction when a few mindless individuals wanted to escape from the North stand to get in the West at the opening game against Salford I think it was.
I don't think it is unmanageable to check tickets when people are entering the terraced stands but we took the lazier option of putting barriers up which ruined the original idea of free movement around the concourse.
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| The question there is how people would react to having their tickets checked again and again every time they re-enter a stand.
If you are a season ticket holder, you probably carry it, if like me you pay on the day, once inside I've been know to bin it, or lose it.
What if a family go and like mine the chief holds all the season tickets, it's the whole issue of challenging people and what happens if they can't prove.
It's best to have a simple rule as discretionary rules where some stewards would be by the book others less so would lead to problems.
Closing the gates is the only realistic option, unless you were going to turnstyle the stands themselves, but that would be
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b) a true H&S nightmare if a quick evac was needed.
No other modern sporting venues allow un governed movement between stands and whilst it was a noble idea, in the end those who decided to move spoiled that dead.
But I am surprised you can get between south and West. I wonder if that's because of the family stand area.
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| But if you try to buy online is down.
I'm thinking it's maybe getting a little busy
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| Quote: bewareshadows "The question there is how people would react to having their tickets checked again and again every time they re-enter a stand.
If you are a season ticket holder, you probably carry it, if like me you pay on the day, once inside I've been know to bin it, or lose it.
What if a family go and like mine the chief holds all the season tickets, it's the whole issue of challenging people and what happens if they can't prove.
It's best to have a simple rule as discretionary rules where some stewards would be by the book others less so would lead to problems.
Closing the gates is the only realistic option, unless you were going to turnstyle the stands themselves, but that would be
a) expensive
b) a true H&S nightmare if a quick evac was needed.
No other modern sporting venues allow un governed movement between stands and whilst it was a noble idea, in the end those who decided to move spoiled that dead.
But I am surprised you can get between south and West. I wonder if that's because of the family stand area.'"
You can at the Millenium Cardiff. However I do agree with what you say.
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| Putting barriers up is absolutely the right idea and as Bewareshadows poinbts out, any other method would be open to interpretation and could cause bigger problems than looking for a shorter queue.
I believe people can go from the West to the South then back through to the West if you have a ticket for the West stand but some stewards may not allow it on the day.
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| What is Wigan's allocation like???? Did they get any more than the 1550
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "You can at the Millenium Cardiff. However I do agree with what you say.'"
But if you did that at the Millenium at a sold out game you wouldn't have anywhere to sit.
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| As you can move between South and West now how would the stewards govern how many were in the West if a substantial number did decide to migrate?
I can't see this happening however but just a thought. It's almost a discriminatory move against those in the North Stand.
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| Quote: exileinpietown "As you can move between South and West now how would the stewards govern how many were in the West if a substantial number did decide to migrate?
I can't see this happening however but just a thought. It's almost a discriminatory move against those in the North Stand.'"
The North stand doesn't link up to the West stand though? The link between the south and west is the SW corner. It's not an issue for people to move from West to South because there's only a limited number of seats, whereas if you were allowed to go from North/South to west it could lead to overcrowding in the standing areas. You can only get from the South stand to the West stand with a valid West stand ticket I believe.
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "You can only get from the South stand to the West stand with a valid West stand ticket I believe.'"
I've never been challenged doing that.
I have a beer with my parents who sit in the south and then walk across to the west for the game. I have a west stand season ticket.
I don't understand why it's an issue even if you are challenged (this is a general point btw). You should hold your own ticket throughout the match. Why someone said they throw their ticket away is ridiculous. How difficult is it to put it in your wallet/pocket? And don't let you children run wild into different stand and there also won't be an issue.
Big fuss about nothing this
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| That was me. Why would I keep the ticket? Whilst you maybe an affable fello who does not mind being asked. There are those who would start a fight if you asked them the time. Besides it's not a big fuss it's a talking point. You can say all internet posts are fuss over nothing. Someone asked about moving between stands. I answered without full knowledge thinking that the barriers on thenrnorth applied all around.
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "The North stand doesn't link up to the West stand though? '"
It most certainly does.
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| I think they will be more strict in this game and will ask to see tickets when moving around the stadium.
Last year they used the metal fence to block people from moving about and asked to see tickets.
In the games where the is 10/13 thousand it doesn't really matter.
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