Now that you think the club is a joke, I assume that you will no longer be supporting it. That would be a real shame because I actually quite enjoy reading your posts on here. It's been very entertaining. But, I suppose everything has to come to an end at some point.

All the best!!!

Is it? or is Roby's or Wilkin's? And it's only to a max of £50K

All of them, also they all played 10 minutes for Liverpool St Helens before they signed their last contracts, so we're quids in.

We,ve had a few full backs in the past who have carried on finished there career in the pack, Frankie Barrow, Kel Coslett, Phil Veivers and probably others. The problem with Wellens is that he,s not been able to make that transition having operated at 1, 6 and 13 this season.
Wellens obviously has some asset value outside of match days and there is only Wilkin who can offer experience and leadership during match days.
The question is who will be the next 3 players who can offer the combination of leadership, experience, influential play thats needed to gel a team together towards success.

Deal is done i heard.

Pay as you play contract would've been nice but wont happen. A year too much already, why not give him another eh! Excuse me whilst i go cry....

Tail wags the dog again.

Embarrassing just Embarrassing.

No one is bigger than the club except at St Helens.

Yes I defend the club however it is becoming an old boys event going back to Bennett

Wello just doesn't have the power or aggression to be in the pack or the dimunitive qualities you need to be in the halves. In other words, his time is up. I'd love him to stay behind the scenes with KC .

I thought it applied to all players who have had a testimonial with the club, and they got upto £50k per year of their salary exempt from the cap (could be wrong that was just the way I understood it).

Either way, Wellens had his testimonial before Wilkin & Gardner, and Roby's testimonial year is 2014 so wont be his until after that. I cant see Wello commanding top dollar any more, and even if we paid him £100k a season only £50k would count on the cap. I think we would struggle to get a squad player to come in on £50k a year or less who is a better option than Wello and for that reason I think it is a good move to keep him (as long as it is as a squad player)

The thing is, if Wellens left we could get the £50k allowance on Wilkin's salary instead (you can only get the allowance on one salary), so it's not a saving in real terms.

Give over. Take Wellens' name and past achievements out of the equation and he's not worth a place. The likes of Swift are better in every position Wello plays, and I'm sure the likes of Charnock and Yates are too so why bother keeping him?

Going to be very interesting where we play him next year. He's lost his fullback role and IMO he can't play any other postion.

He shouid have took Salford up and their offer, I would have been best for all parties

We've had him practicing his best welsh accent. The delay in announcing the new contract is because McManus hasnt had time to head over to the RFL yet and cry about how unfair the salary cap is and demand we can keep Wello for free for the good of the game.

Unless we sign up O'Brien or someone similar I can see him clogging up standoff because Wheeler will no doubt spend most of next year on the treatment table. If my some miracle Wheeler stays fit then I'd expect him to be wedged in at loose forward where he can take the place of a decent forward.

If he ends up at loose, that means that either wilkin, sia or Manu not getting picked and all three are 100 times better than wello.

The amount of cap space we could free up by letting wello, Ade, Laffranchi plus the ones like Meli, TP and Perry should allow us to bring in top quality players but we are giving dead wood like wello, Laffranchi and Ade new deals.