what have leeds got to do with saints losing. All in all for a neutral iy=t was a good game spoiled by a weak referee, but he was not biased.

It's an internet forum it's going to happen.

In the end most Saints fans have no problem with Royce and there will be no pushing him out, we don't sack coaches before the end of contract unless they are disciplinary.

My major concern is the back on the bench. I think Royce has shown he is flexible enough to move big name players to the bench or to the non-playing squad.

The rugby we play is sterile to say the least.If you analyse our tries,most start within 30 metres of the opposition's line on the back of penalties.How many times did we break the line tonight?Simmons reign will end the same as Potter's-trophyless.

Nice to see it's not just the Leeds fans who are complete 'fekwits'.

He got us to a grand final in an injury ravaged season, yes hes the man for the job

A big change round in personnel is required at the end of the season (including the coach).

weve got to a few grand finals...but never won any of em recentley so its a waste of time going.

I suppose the question is right man for what????

It's very early and we are still going well even with this loss, league wise. Many other teams will fall to Catalan.

I don't think Royce will turn Saints into a bottom of the league side.

Will he win stuff????? His rotation would suggest he is end loading the season, but if we can't sure up the defence, it could be too little to late. Not every team can do a Leeds each year? It would only have taken one game, one goal kick for the Leeds season go from being a champion team to a team outside the top 4. Winning is everything, but for Leeds and the Coach it was the definition of that, from a disappointing season to a glorious season in a few games.

Getting to a grand final is all well and good,Potter did it twice and he had injuries to deal with along the way.Just because we got there doesnt automatically mean he is the man for the job.

You really think so? I'm not so sure anymore, the last 2 games have been poor defensively and if dont improve by vast amounts we wont have the problem of another grand final to bottle

Whether Simmons is the right man is debatable. I wouldn't make any hasty decisions right not as it is far too early. That said, I suspect McManus' patience will not be endless now the stadium is in place.

No but unless someone awesome turns up mid season, then who???

Bar the return of Anderson or Meninga suddenly being interested, even if our form stays patchy Saints won't drop Royce and in my opinion neither should they. Unless you are going to get a absolute great , (by what ever measure you use) then you need consistency, not a gamble.