I agree, Jamie is not looking as safe as he was early in the season. He's looks suspect on kicks and to much grabbing in defence.

Jamie could replace meli as our match loser in the grand final.

Saying that, Webb for Leeds can also have days where he can't catch a cold.

get a haircut you hippie!

Worries?

That the minority of Leeds idiots will turn up. Particulary with Leeds Utd not having a game.

This is a concern. Although we were well beaten last year and by our traditional rivals, the atmosphere was a ton better than it had been at any of the matches against Leeds. I hope there isn't any trouble but I wouldn't be surprised if there is.

The was trouble last year. Saints fans fighting with saints fans

I reckon there won't be much trouble this year from Leeds Fans, think the "hatred" has mellowed a bit and its more mutual respect now, might be down to both of us knocking out the 2 favourites.

No worries. We have peaked at the right time at last. We look relatively fresh and in form and we know we can beat Leeds having done it twice this season. Play to our capabilities and we will be ok. COYS!

I really dont see what the fuss is. I've got my Chris Joynt testimonial shirt ready. I've also got my apollo training jumper from his last grand final. Its in the bag.

I did not wear them against leeds previously as I was wearing the new shirts those years. Silly me. I've remided that now so I'll e in a blue training top from years back and look a little out of place amongst the red and white of everyone one else. But I dont mind as at least the game will be in the bag.

Sorry for not wearing it after the hull final. opps

My worry is that the game will be decided by a simple error such as a defender slipping on the wet turf in the defensive line or when fielding a kick. I hope the game is decided on skill and effort and courage rather than error or refereeing decision.

COYS!

It has surprised me how super confident that some St Helens fans have been, a little like the England Unions boys this morning? it seems as if some feel the team only need to appear and win.

As I said on another thread I wonder how much the weather will play an important part, a very wet pitch which team will it suit more, though thankfully the winds seem to have dropped.

If Leeds should win it shows what a farce the play-offs are when a team who scrape in are the Champions and seem to be seen as the top team in Super League, perhaps it is time for it just to be the Sky End of Season Knock Out Cup? as that is what it has become, a lot more people will have watched England on ITV this morning than ever Sky can deliver, it is simply the money Sky brings to the game.

I disagree totally with this post. Most Saints fans are just happy to be there and are being quite chicken when it comes to predicting a Saints win.

Leeds winning is no less of a farce than Saints or Wigan. Neither finished the league top. Whether you are not top by one point or hundred you are still not top. Either the playoffs are valid or they are not. They can'tbe made more vaklid becauase of a certain outcome. Its either a valid process or not.

Personally I say not. But the clubs seam happy with it.

Phil Bentham ruining the game with dubious decisions is a worry. The guy is a moron.