Premiership final.

To be fair Saints technically finished the 2nd best team of Super League last year with their grand final appearance. You finished of with a loss to Huddersfield and then booed your own team of

No "technically" about it. We finished 2nd after the regular rounds and made the GF.

No, I celebrated in Manchester that night and got a mini bus home at 4 am while you was tucked up in bed all frustrated that we won

aka "Mark tries to get all concilliatory with Trent, having lost on points in every point he tried to make".............

As stated previously in this thread, as a club St.Helens depise Wigan, Wigan despise St.Helens. This is not about arrogance, its about history and tradition.

As a set of supporters, both St.Helens and Wigan depise Warrington. This is down to the fact they have always had a problem with attracting d**khead supporters and now two CC wins later, more and more appear to be jumping on this bandwagon.
I agree with the 'mutual respect' between Wigan and St.Helens (barring derby day of course )

On derby day, I get up feeling butterflies, go and watch a fantasticly fought nerve racking game with a brilliant atmosphere. This is exactly the same as any Warrington game.

The difference comes when en route home. After Wigan away, every year we walk back to the train discussing the game with Wigan fans, whoever loses is gracious in defeat. Home safely, no problems.

At Warrington away, its a task getting back to the station without being confronted. Theres always that feeling of nastiness in the air. If saints have won (which happened a fair bit ) you receive constant abuse. Even after the game last month, they were trying to bait all the saints fans to cause a reaction. total pr**ks.

Tbh, I'm surprised the police haven't requested a midday KO for tomorrows cup game because if Wigan win and end Warrington's 'Cup Dominance', I expect a fair bit of trouble.. hopefully all are well behaved, but I'm not holding my breath.

This is bang on.

Being brought up with Wigan RL the Wigan-Saints rivallary is bred into you but I can and will take stick off any Saints fan and respect them simply because they have won it all, they have the right to have the arrogance about them. Wire winning 2 challenge cups in sixty years and being so arrogant annoys the Sh** out of me!!!

Saints over Wire any day for me.

EDIT _ To make it clear though only only ever against Wire........... oh an the Aussies

Much man love for you from me.

Speak for yourself. I despise Wigan and Leeds.

Wire to win tomorrow for me.

As a pie also residing in direland I echo your sentiments. They won 11 or so games and get 2 CCs out of it !!!! we won double that last year just to get the winners shield,,,,, theyre no where near as good as they think they are.