Just to ensure one thing here, just because people like DD and I bemoan the loss of flair and ingenuity in recent seasons does not actually mean we have signed this petition.

Like Dave said, and has pointed out with adequate examples, we have mentioned this for a long time.

The problem is people coming on here with a pre-defined conception of what they want to believe so they can have a good rant.

Edited for accuracy. Should I get banned from here any time now for a differing opinion?

As much as I would like my team to be challenging for honours every season. I would willingly sacrifice that and have them as a mid-table side (for a couple of seasons) if we could just have a SL that provides entertaining rugby for all fans of everyteam. This last couple of years the entertainment value of SL has dropped year on year. I have not been excited at all watching the rugby this year. It has become 'boring ' if that is the right word to use. There have been occasional games that have proved to be OK but overall it would get the thumbs down for me this season. There have been many poor games on SKY this year.

These 3 perhaps...

HKR 26 v SAINTS 10

SALFORD 20 v SAINTS 10

CELTIC 0 v SAINTS 4

Hopefully.

I've been less games this season than the previous year and I'll be going even less next year. The game in this country has become dull in my opinion and obviously I'm not the only one that see's it. The evidence is there when you watch the unorganised National team representing us at the end of the season. It's one out or nothing, no flair, no guile, nothing. The game is going downhill for me and has been since 2006. 2005 was the last really entertaining season as a Saints fan and even though we won nothing, we played some brilliant rugby. Since then, the standard has dropped offensively, not just at Saints, but for the majority of teams.

You or anyone else can agree, you can disagree, I don't really care.

I'm not too sure in the continued logic of trying to be rational with Leeds trolls. They can see the point being made and they might even agree with it but they will never say so on here because that might encourage real debate on ideas to fix the dull Rugby were suffering with. It would also ruin there trolling attempts. Untill the aussies and Kiwi's thrash the 'new look' England they need to find somewhere to get there kicks.

I totally agree with DD and like DD it isn't simply a Saints thing. Saints have not adapted as well as other teams but that may be because our coach has opted to up our defences rather than skill our attack as an answer to the change in style of play. And that seems to be what many teams have done, Hudds being the most extreme example. The Superleague game as a whole has slowed down. It is frustrating to watch and boring to watch. I have enjoyed Championship matches far more than Superleague matches this season as the infection does not appear to have reached those games. Yet.

well as i continue to state, this is not in reference to the grand final.. at no point have i mentioned the loss to leeds as being the reason for this, some leeds fans seem to have a complex that everything saints fans say or do is because they have lost a few grand finals..

i'm genuinely worried about the standard of superleague to watch, and having watched some heineken cup tries over the weekend, the tries (few and far between still) are a lot better standard than in rugby league..

i had hoped other fans from other clubs would sign the petition, but it appears the obsessed leeds fans have seen otherwise..

and i'll reiterate, a quicker play of the ball would probably now be worse for saints than the current system

I expected better off you!

And the final 2 (Eastmond's winning *cough*try*cough* and the semi final that could have gone either way) were better and more competitive than any in recent memory! Just shows how selective memory can be when it suits an argument....

moment of madness on reflection about the petition, but my statements about the state of the game ring true