Pretty damn smart. First shirt purchase since 2006 for mine!!!!!!

Warrington RLFC's loss is Saints RLFC's gain, nice to see you supporting the redvee club.

Just out of interest, what do you thinbk of the Wrexham Crusaders kit?

Couldn't agree more with that!

Retro-style, throwback blah...... lack of ideas seems more likely. Saints bobbins merch streak continues. First time since i don't-know-when that i won't be buying any of that tripe. Sick of forking out wedge for a shirt i don't really like, but want to support the club. Won't be this year!

Each to their own though i guess, which is why i'll be buying another hockey jersey instead - (a sport that knows how to merchandise).

(No i'm not a troll either!)

Hockey as in NHL or little girls running round in skirts on astroturf in England?

Coaarr! A game-worn ladies shirt from a tidy field-hockey player would be alright actually!

Hockey as in NHL, as i guess that's the league everyone knows. But i was more on about a local team affiliated to Manchester's first team.

Back on-topic... Saints home shirt is last year's with less trim and a thinner V (must have took a genius to design that), away kit is a Wakefield shirt from a few years ago (ditto).

Heritage shirt looks like the best shirt ever in comparison.

Barcelona's shirt is the same as last year, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before . . .

Ain't brand recognition a b*tch.

Brand recognition! lol

Go to a Cote d'Ivoire (first example i could think of) soccer game and show somebody a Saints shirt. Do you think they'd instantly yelp "ah! that red vee can mean only one thing! Saints RLFC!". But i bet if you went to an amateur rugby league game over here, people would know Barcelona's shirt straight away.

Our organisation isn't in the same world as Barcelona's, let alone the same league. They sell shirts the world over, just because they are who they are.

Our organisation apparently struggles financially, so shouldn't a shirt that actually differs each year make sense, to make people want to buy a new one each year?

I used to buy the home and away shirt every year at the start of Superleague, as it felt like getting two new shirts every year. But lately, its just like downloading a service pack for Windows most of the time

I've nothing against having a red vee on a white shirt. Its having the same plain white shirt with a single red vee that is my problem. What's wrong with varying it a bit like we used to?

There is nothing 'wrong' with it. But there is only so far you can go. It's got to be the same colours primarily or we would have to change the whole identity of the club.

I suggested a thick red back around a white shirt that we've had many years ago but it was roundly mocked on here, with many people saying they wouldn't buy or wear it because it didn't have a vee. I suppose that is the dilema the club has.

You could produce an absolutely stunning shirt, brilliantly designed so it looks superb on the field, with jeans or smart enough for wearing out. BUT what would you do the following year? It's a rugby club not a fashion house at the end of the day.

exactly, they could put loads of cost and effort into doing an amazing shirt that looks great in every circumstance, is brilliant quality that lasts for years, and that fans love and wear for years because they love it so much. It would probably sell in record numbers, but then people wouldnt buy the next years version.

On the other hand they can knock out any old white teeshirt with a redvee, make it of average quality (enough to last a year) and look ok - it will still sell loads, but people will be more inclined to purchase the next years shirt.

Yep, the point I was making was that people in the Ivory Coast recognise Saints as much as Barcelona. Bang on the money.

i wouldnt recognise a barcelona shirt, i doubt i'd recognise more than 5 premier league shirts

that's because you're not from the Ivory Coast