Only NRL team that could use definitely Hardaker at this time is Newcastle, though Penrith may be interested because of impending move of Matthew Moylan to five eighth in 2017.

Just heard that FPN is now signing for Wigan.

We're a bloody joke.

Why are we a joke.......he may have wanted more than he's worth.

If he's a success at Wigan then fair enough we've lost out but let's wait and see.

Seriously? That would be hilarious, especially after we couldn't tempt Symonds either.

Yes. Sky sports news just before tonight's game.

We're a joke because we are in desperate need of new blood. Far more than Wigan or Warrington. Yet those clubs recognise that they can't sit on their laurels, while we just sit and watch, hoping that somehow the same squad will get a different result next year.

Still, perhaps in the reserves we've another slow dwarf ready to step up to the threequarters, or another lumbering fat lad who stops dead at first contact in the forwards.

Indeed we are. Cunningham probably confided in Wayne that we were after him ( FPN)

Saints sign... no one, as they are all turning us down.

You can't have a go at Saints just based on forum rumours.

Why not? It was confirmed by the Symonds camp that we tried there and it's blatantly obvious the links to FPN were McManus's attempt to divert the heat from KC onto something positive. The departures of Burns and Charnock on loan was obviously done for cap reasons and yet here we are about to see FPN pull on the Cherry and white shirt instead of ours.

The club is a joke. Why not criticise it?

I did think in the St Helens Star this week Cunningham in one breath said we name no names, then went on to name one, what is between those Giant Headphones when on his head?

The FPN rumours came from the Sydney Morning Herald - are you suggesting that the club told them to announce it and they just went "okay, there's no need for us to look into these things, or talk to Canberra or the player"?

If the rumours were started by the star, I'd be more inclined to believe you in your there was never anything in this its all lies philosophy (Saints, categorically, did speak to FPN). Burns has been on the outer for months and should of gone months ago, and Charnock isn't long for this club and wouldn't cover 10% of FPN anyway probably...

If he has gone to Wigan, we should be concerning ourselves with the fact that almost definitely means that Bateman is gone and that's who we should be chasing

And what do you think the chances of Saints pulling a transfer like that off are? I'd attend LP naked if that came off.

I can't wait to see KC's 'promised land' signings. I really can't. If you believe the papers Luke Lewis is to sign a new 2 year deal with Cronulla today, Gilmore has signed an extension with Widnes and FPN is off to Wigan. Just who are these people who are going to transport the club to on high? Some cracking players have moved already. Perhaps if we had someone at the club with any credentials for the roles they are in we might be doing better with recruitment.

Tom Gilmour signed a new 2-yr deal at Widnes.

That phrase like many others will come back to haunt like the Hohaia "Marquee Signing - fit for the new stadium".

Hull, imo, have shown some good nouse in their signings.
Players like Fanou and Talanoa are big, they're quick and they're not so physically challenged that they'll up 50% of walk in tries that come their way.
We have very little ability to get a roll on early in the set, since our back 3 players are a bunch of shrimps.