Briscoe has looked turd and out of his depth in every game he has played for England, and he has played a damn site more games than Charnley. Charnley didnt really get the ball and certainly did no worse than Hall.

On Charnley people forget that he is still fairly inexperienced and he hasnt really played many SL games and is still learning imo. Last year when he was playing outside of Joel Tomkins he was often exposed defensively and didnt look half as good in attack and defence as he has done this year. This changed this season when Goulding, who is great defensively, has been his centre. He is also the leading centre in SL for try assists and a player who has set up most of Charnleys tries. Charnleys a good player and great finisher but Gouldings contribution to his tries and overall play this year cannot be underestimated. Put Charnley outside an awful centre like Ablett, who isnt eve raelly a centre, and he was always going to be quiet and more unsure.

Strange how He won the MOM, Best player on the park, 50+Tackles as well.
Perhaps you were eatching a different game ?

dubairl probably didn't even watch the game. He's just decided McIllorum is vastly better than Roby and so therefore Roby must have been terrible. Ignoring the fact he was the best player on the pitch by a country mile and won Man of the Match, it's a fair point.

Had McIllorum and Goulding played, England would have won by 340 and declared by quarter past 7.

On Roby and McIlorum it is just a question of preference in what you want from a hooker and I dont think many Wigan fans would have any complaint about Roby being selected in the starting team. It is just a judgement call and your own personal opinion and I can totally see why someone else would prefer Roby. The baffling thing for me was McIlorum not being picked in the squad at all.

Selections like this will always cause debate. More worrying for me are things that McNamara has done that are wrong to 99% of RL fans like Sinfield being selected at Stand Off, as well as 4 other average and out of form Leeds players, Ablett at centre, Peacock still captain, no building towards the World Cup etc. These are far more worrying than a coin toss between 2 players.

McIllorum isnt in the same league as robes, it's just not a contest between the two at all.

However, Goulding should have played centre before Albett tonight. Goulding has been the form centre this year and also has very good partnership with the on the wing.

Albett isn't even a centre.

I don't know why people are criticising Charnley. It was his debut and he hardly got a load of ball. He had a truly naff centre inside of him.

Meli had a good game. Loved the hits he put out. Scored a good try too and did some nice passing for the almost try. But he likes playing for the Exiles.

Wasn't really a game for the backs with the conditions: the three-quarters hardly touched the ball and Tomkins was quiet I thought.

Sums it up well I think.

I think Meli is in the shop window.He did well tonight.Might cost Widnes a bit more money for his services.

I'll be sad to see him go and our 3/4 line at the moment looks pallid and utterly unthreatening without him for next season. I doubt we'll be seeing any flowing back moves for a long, long time to come given the way our squad is currently shaping up. All hail the barge...

saddend of course i watched the game, also i supported england unlike some on here. yeah roby is a good hooker i have never said he isn't. But he needs to learn when to scoot and when not too in your own half yeah you should, when in the ops 20 with the attacking line set no you shouldn't. alot of times last night he lost any space for the attacking line because he scooted and passed just before being tackled and it puts the attacking line under pressure. let me guess who picked the man of the match stevo? (i really dont know) but he loves a hooker who scoots aswell as eddie "thats clever work that it really is" stevo special now eddies "great scampering run from dummy half. stevo only praises hookers when they pick up the ball and try to catch the markers offside.

but saying that i dont think it really matters with sinfield at 6 anyway.

I think your just being biased against roby.

Stevo gives non stop praise to Monaghan at wolves who's not a scooting hooker, he never shut up about James Lowes who wasn't a scooting hooker, he just loves hookers (the rugby hoookers I mean)

How any can suggest that roby isn't the best hooker in super league it utter crazy, he was also best player on the pitch against the exiles.

McIllroum will never be in the same class as Roby

He's a poor mans Jon Clarke

He's not that bad