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| Quote: nikos "By the same token Hoffman, also world class and there are probably 2 or 3 better second rows than him in SL'"
for me the only 2 close to being world class in SL at the moment are Roby and Tomkins
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| Quote: nikos "for me the only 2 close to being world class in SL at the moment are Roby and Tomkins'"
I'd agree with that, and I'd say a fit and firing on all cylinders Graham would also be up there.
Maybe it's my terrible Wigan bias. But Lockers might be worth a shout. Although one might not consider him world class in some respects. I can't think of a 13 in SL or the NRL better than him. Whether that then makes him world class is debatable.
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| Quote: nikos "for me the only 2 close to being world class in SL at the moment are Roby and Tomkins'"
Agreed. From an England point of view I'd also throw in Graham and Sam burgess as they are in the top 5 in the world in their positions but haven't yet done so for an extended period
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| Quote: LovesToSpooge "I'd agree with that, and I'd say a fit and firing on all cylinders Graham would also be up there.
Maybe it's my terrible Wigan bias. But Lockers might be worth a shout. Although one might not consider him world class in some respects. I can't think of a 13 in SL or the NRL better than him. Whether that then makes him world class is debatable.'"
No lockers I think your world class too
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| Quote: LovesToSpooge "Maybe it's my terrible Wigan bias. But Lockers might be worth a shout. Although one might not consider him world class in some respects. I can't think of a 13 in SL or the NRL better than him. Whether that then makes him world class is debatable.'"
I'm not knocking Lockers, but it depends what type of 13 you want really. A ball handling loose like him and Sinfield or a battering ram type loose. Its hard to compare him to someone who plays the same position but is made do it differently.
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| Quote: SecondRowSaint "I'm not knocking Lockers, but it depends what type of 13 you want really. A ball handling loose like him and Sinfield or a battering ram type loose. Its hard to compare him to someone who plays the same position but is made do it differently.'"
Agreed. Paul Gallen and Lockers are perfect examples of this.
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| Quote: LovesToSpooge "
Maybe it's my terrible Wigan bias. But Lockers might be worth a shout. Although one might not consider him world class in some respects. I can't think of a 13 in SL or the NRL better than him. Whether that then makes him world class is debatable.'"
The only world class British player at the moment in super league for me is Roby. Locker is just a very good club player, if you place Lockers against Sculthorpe then Lockers is definitely not world class.
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| Scully IMO is the only true world class player this country has produced for many many years.
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| From the last 10 years or so, a few more names I'd say were World Class:
Carney
Peacock
Morley
Gleeson
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| Surprised no one has mentioned cunningham. For a while he was definitely best number nine on the world, regardless of whether he played for gb or not
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| Cunningham would be up there ahead of Sculthorpe for me.
Cunningham wasnt only the best 9 in the world in his prime he was one of the best players full stop.
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| Quote: SomersetSaint "Surprised no one has mentioned cunningham. For a while he was definitely best number nine on the world, regardless of whether he played for gb or not'"
It took 21 posts to mention KC?
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| Quote: Two Wheeled Saint "icon_eek.gif It took 21 posts to mention KC?
Its a given.
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| Quote: LovesToSpooge "I'd agree with that, and I'd say a fit and firing on all cylinders Graham would also be up there.
Maybe it's my terrible Wigan bias. But Lockers might be worth a shout. Although one might not consider him world class in some respects. I can't think of a 13 in SL or the NRL better than him. Whether that then makes him world class is debatable.'"
Id agree with this, for me Roby, tomkins and Graham are all world class...as is Thomas Leuluai imo. He seems to be the man that really makes Wigan tick and they seem to dip in form when he is spelled at 9 (Wire CCQF, Leeds in final) and has been a great performer for NZ up against Cameron smith (the best 9 on the planet)
As for O'Loughlin, good solid club player but not world class imo. Wouldnt get into most NRL teams or into Australia/NZ squad like the above 4 would
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| Tommy martyn? For me had the talent to be considered truly world class but does his injuries ( thus time spent not playing) prevent him from being considered??
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