I'm glad its not just me who thinks this. Apparently he has potential...this has yet to be shown. I honestly ATM cant see him having a future with Saints. Others argue he's hardworking but you still need skill to go with it.

He is just a poor mans Mike Bennett. Bennett wasn't brilliant but did a job, Magennis is a lot worse than he was, and he was barely Saints quality.

We need to sign at least 2 IMO but the question is who? There will be no Jammer so that leaves us potentially light and lack of back up.

Our problems in the back row are systemic. It is clear that our academy favours players with fitness and mobility over those with size and impact. Which is why just about all of the back rows coming out of the academy are much the same size and shape. On the one hand they are quick about the field and can operate right up to 80 minutes per game (allowing other players to be subbed to suit tactics). But they are weak against bigger players who can out-muscle them physically, meaning we make less yards per carry.

This is NOT to say bigger is necessarily better. We mustn't forget that bigger players tire quicker and they can be exposed by a good kick and chase (Millward proved this year after year against Bradford).

The truth is Simmons is right. We didn't execute the right tactics. Had we done so we would have exposed the deficiencies in their back row as opposed to the other way around.

I think your all very harsh on Magennis..... kid looks good and often gets away some amazing offloads..... he runs good angles and had he held onto Meli's pass in the 1st half, we would have been right back in the game!!!!

Get off his back.... much better than Dixon and Ashurst.....

Megennis... not big enough will be gone at the end of his contract

Last night as made me feel so negative.

Magennis hasn't been given anywhere near enough game time for anyone to make critical judgement about his future. This is his first real chance at the top level. He's played a few good games. He's played a few mediocre ones. We'll only see the best of him when he fleshes out, which will be in one or two years. Until that point he's an unknown quantity.

I do dispare at the sack player attitudes after a loss.

So far this year, we have had calls for the following players not being good enough for Saints, depending on the result of Saints that week.

Wellens
Meli
Gardner
Shenton
Gaskell
Eastmond
Perry
LMS
Soliola
Megennis
Dixon
Ashurst
Wheeler (mainly due to being injury prone)

It seams the only solution to a loss, fans can come up with, is to sack someone. Lets just thank the lord we ain't coaches our we would have no team left to play with come the end of the season. I think part of it is our past success in SL and expecting this to continue.

This year we have had some great games and when your not at the top, the best you can hope for is good entertainment. Friday we lacked some effort possibly, or the pack where just knackered. But I think we still have some wins in us and a return to form like at the DW earlier in the season, just requires hard work and coaching not a whole sale change of the playing staff. Lets face it no one new is coming in this year except those who are injured, and from those injured only Leon or CLough will bring any impact to the team IMHO, and for me the jury is still out on Leon. He's had nearly a year injured, that's tough to come back from and be on white hot form. We saw last year Soliola came back but took till this year to show what he could do.

this list of player if you had armstrong to the list would beat most of the teams in super league apart from the top three

Exactly.

I've just had a look at the fixtures and this is certainly our most difficult run of games. When you look at our run in to the end of the season, it's not too bad.

If we can pull some kinda win from somewhere against Warrington, then we have a run in that should keep us in the top 4 and maybe higher, depending on how Wigan, Warrington and Huddersfield take points off each other.

We are inconsistent and we need a run off form to the end of the season to give us some chance at the business end.

after fridays game we should go into every game this season excepting a win which would put us in top 3 finish and if everyone fit we would have a good chance in the playoff