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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Gardner a safer option than Foster? In what aspect?
I'd bin Gardner myself, he isn't better than Foster in any aspect of his game, but is 30 rather than 20.
Gardner has survived this long because we've never had a youth player come through that's been good enough to oust him, in Foster, Makinson and Ashe we've now got 3.'"
I think Gardner is safer than Foster both in defence and under pressure from kicks. Foster is turning into Meli when it comes to dealing with kicks. However, Foster has youth on his side and time to learn, I suppose it depends on whether you want to be sure that a blunder won't be made or if you wan't Foster to try and learn from experience.
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "I think Gardner is safer than Foster both in defence and under pressure from kicks. Foster is turning into Meli when it comes to dealing with kicks. However, Foster has youth on his side and time to learn, I suppose it depends on whether you want to be sure that a blunder won't be made or if you wan't Foster to try and learn from experience.'"
If you want to be sure that a blunder won't be made, I'm not sure Gardner is your man
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "If you want to be sure that a blunder won't be made, I'm not sure Gardner is your man
Not much between ade and foster. Both struggle to beat a man, both average with ball in and both dodgy in defence and under kicks.
They both can finish very well near the line.
I think Jamie is in danger of believing his own hype and more concerned with how he looks instead of playing rugby. I highly rated him over the last season and half but the back end of last year hed become a liability.
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| I think people have forgotten that Ade was in good form and had a new lease of life under Royce prior to his season ending injury. His defence was good on Friday and he ran the ball up strongly.
Seems as though we have quite a few 3 into 2 selection problems at half back and wing, our biggest problem short term is lack of quality of centres. Think I would put Sia in at centre for part of the games, to add some "punch".
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| Quote: Judder Man "Think I would put Sia in at centre for part of the games, to add some "punch".'"
Hell no. His defence is crap. It was crap on Friday. And wasn't he partnering Meli in the GF when Shenny went off injured? Nightmare.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Hell no. His defence is crap. It was crap on Friday. And wasn't he partnering Meli in the GF when Shenny went off injured? Nightmare.'"
I agree, the days of sia playing centre are long gone.
I think lomax moved to the Wing when shenton went off at old Trafford as he dine his ankle, so think it was Meli and lomax on the left when they punished us.
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| Quote: St pete "I think lomax moved to the Wing when shenton went off at old Trafford as he dine his ankle, so think it was Meli and lomax on the left when they punished us.'"
Nope. Lomax went to the wing, then centre, then further infield. Meli was on the wing and Soliola at centre. Leeds realised then that Christmas had come early.
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| Quote: St pete "Not much between ade and foster. Both struggle to beat a man, both average with ball in and both dodgy in defence and under kicks.
They both can finish very well near the line.
I think Jamie is in danger of believing his own hype and more concerned with how he looks instead of playing rugby. I highly rated him over the last season and half but the back end of last year hed become a liability.'"
That may well have been the case, but having read through his twitter feed at the weekend he was critical of his own performance, that's not what I would expect from someone believing his own hype.
He's a young lad with time on his side, mistakes will be made and it's how he reacts to these which will determine the player he will become.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "He's a young lad with time on his side, mistakes will be made and it's how he reacts to these which will determine the player he will become.'"
I think it was noteworthy that at one point he made a deliberate call for a bomb and caught it. His game improved after this.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Nope. Lomax went to the wing, then centre, then further infield. Meli was on the wing and Soliola at centre. Leeds realised then that Christmas had come early.'"
Is that what happened? Meli started at left centre, but got shuffled to the wing when Wellens went off, but didn't he then swap to right centre when Shents got injured?
Anyway, no to Soliola in the centre. Shenton, Wheeler, Meli and indeed Makinson would be preferable to for me. Keep the beef in the middle. Despite a couple of missed tackles, Soliola came up with a few monster plays on Friday.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Is that what happened? Meli started at left centre, but got shuffled to the wing when Wellens went off, but didn't he then swap to right centre when Shents got injured?'"
Meli was on the wing. That bit I'm never going to forget! I remember saying to my Dad sitting next to me that we are finished because Meli is on the wing.
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| Fully fit there are selection problems all over the field for royce.
There is no reason to player the same team week in and week out. We had four/five props in the widnes match if you count megennis. You add TP to that rotation is a must for a fully fit front row. That means some weeks TP or La frank dont play whilst megeniis does.
Same in the backs we dont have to play the same FB each week or the same wingers. I know you can only rotate so much to maintain fitness but take the easter weekend.If we have a fully fit side why not.
wigan game
Wellens. Foster. meli. shenton. makinson. lance. gaskell. TP.roby.LMS.Wilkin.sia.Flanaghan.
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makinson. foster. wheeler. shenton. gardner. lance. lomax
Clough. roby. perry. dixon. sia. flannery
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| Quote: bewareshadows "snip'" You've not mentioned Magennis, there. For me, he needs to be out on loan this year.
He's way down the peccking order in the back and front row, despite showing glimpses. He needs regular first team action, whether that be for a SL club or lower league club like Leigh.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "You've not mentioned Magennis, there. For me, he needs to be out on loan this year.
He's way down the peccking order in the back and front row, despite showing glimpses. He needs regular first team action, whether that be for a SL club or lower league club like Leigh.'"
I'm not sure he's as far down the pecking order as you make out TBH.
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