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| Quote: Dux "It'll be interesting to see how the panel plays this one. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I'm not interested in perpetuating a witch hunt; I've no doubt Flower will be full of remorse and self-loathing for his moment of insanity, and I would have thought a 10-12 week ban would be about right - enough to send out a message but not over the top. But the RFL / the panel will be under a lot of pressure to come down really hard on this one since it was such a high-profile incident and since there has been so much publicity recently about the risks of concussion in the game. Apparently the incident has been front page news in Australia, and already Greg McCallum has chipped in saying it should be at least a 20-game suspension.
Too harsh a punishment and they'll be accused of playing to the galleries, too light and they'll be accused of neglecting player welfare. Striking the right balance is going to be difficult.'"
Agreed 10-12 is about right and keep PC plod out of it.
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| Quote: Dux "It'll be interesting to see how the panel plays this one. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I'm not interested in perpetuating a witch hunt; I've no doubt Flower will be full of remorse and self-loathing for his moment of insanity, and I would have thought a 10-12 week ban would be about right - enough to send out a message but not over the top. But the RFL / the panel will be under a lot of pressure to come down really hard on this one since it was such a high-profile incident and since there has been so much publicity recently about the risks of concussion in the game. Apparently the incident has been front page news in Australia, and already Greg McCallum has chipped in saying it should be at least a 20-game suspension.
Too harsh a punishment and they'll be accused of playing to the galleries, too light and they'll be accused of neglecting player welfare. Striking the right balance is going to be difficult.'"
When was the last time we saw a 12 match ban, though?
Realistically, that's a massive blow to him and his club for next year.
I would suggest that a 1/2 season ban would be a good harsh punishment for what has become a real stinker of an issue, without going crazy.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "When was the last time we saw a 12 match ban, though?
Realistically, that's a massive blow to him and his club for next year.
I would suggest that a 1/2 season ban would be a good harsh punishment for what has become a real stinker of an issue, without going crazy.'"
Sure, 12 weeks is a really long ban, and it would be fully deserved. But it's a fair way short of some of the more severe suggested punishments that are being bandied about.
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| Quote: Dux "Sure, 12 weeks is a really long ban, and it would be fully deserved. But it's a fair way short of some of the more severe suggested punishments that are being bandied about.'"
What did McIlorum get for breaking Dixon's jaw? That was 8, wasn't it? >50% on top of that seems to make it a pretty hefty sentence.
You've also got to be careful - you need to set a decent precedent without making a rod for your own back.
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| Quote: theblondebomber "https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v
Yes........and gives an unsurprising outcome as well.
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| 8-12 games seems about right. There's no real justification for giving him a stiffer penalty. I don't believe he's a serial offender so I don't see how anybody could say he deserves more than what the current maximum for this type of offence is.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "What did McIlorum get for breaking Dixon's jaw?'"
3 games.
Reckon Flower may get away with 7, as he missed the majority of a game already. Who knows though.
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| Fucks me off. I work where no one really watches RL. This morning everyone was talking about it, so once again I'm defending RL. If you've see the Wane video and his directions surely the RFL have? If THEY don't stand by Flower, I hope Flower spills the beans on all of Wanes talks and who to target/assult. If wigan don't handle this in the right way it could be a PR disaster for Wane, Wigan and RL.
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| Quote: Allez "It is - some our fans are beginning to look stupid in their relentless pursuit of him. Most of them either were not born or have short memories of a certain Mr Nickle and his challenge on Robbie Mears. Occasionally you get idiots in sport who cross the line, we had one then, they have several now. Forget it and celebrate the win - forget the rest.'"
You’re right though it was bad it has gone on far too long now and the aftermath is spoiling the event altogether. It was ruined on the day, but the zombies smell blood and don’t really give a sh*te about anything else. Say what you want here but it was just one man on the day, not the rest of the team, not the club, not the fans, and not the town. We spent hard earned cash too, and at least your side won the game, do you really think we are happy with him? Try to stop the zombies or the win will be the biggest none event in SL history, and that’s not fair to the real Saints fans.
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| There's no need for or point in a witch-hunt. He made a stupid mistake - it happens. An 8 game ban and then everyone getting on with their lives would be ample enough punishment.
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| Its just been on the bbc news the has text on that ben flower and Lawrence fire have both been charged by the rfl. Quality jurnos even our bad publicity is incorrect
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| Quote: Austin 3:16 "Its just been on the bbc news the has text on that ben flower and Lawrence fire have both been charged by the rfl. Quality jurnos even our bad publicity is incorrect'"
To be fair on the BEEB 'live' text captions are often hilarious, as you've people who do not know anything about the topic trying to write subtitles simultaneous to the reporters' dialogue. It does not just affect RL.
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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "There's no need for or point in a witch-hunt. He made a stupid mistake - it happens. An 8 game ban and then everyone getting on with their lives would be ample enough punishment.'"
Nah I want blood let him rot in hell Wigan fans would want the same if it was one of our players
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| Quote: Rommel "Nah I want blood let him rot in hell
And that's why we berate them as we do - for not being able to rise above the hysteria and one-eyed perspective that many of them have.
We should be above that.
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