More or less full strength? We have Thornley, Green, McIlorum, Farrell, Clubb, Pettybourne, Goulding, and Hampshire all missing, all who would be in my full strength 17 barring a toss up between Thornley and Goulding. Not to mention Tomkins who is also unavailable through injury who would also make it.

More or less full strength though. Ok.

It's not the worst Wigan team but I wold hardly call it a strong one. We have Jordan James and a 19 year old making his debut (squad no.42) on the bench.

I fail to see why you call it 'injury woes hype'. He's told the truth all week. He said Powell, O'Loughlin and Charnley were all doubtful. The only person added who wasn't in the original 19 is Charnley. Why would he want to 'big up' our injury situation? He has never used injuries as an excuse in any game and do you really think he would if we lost a derby? He expects any team he puts out to win.

Anyway, if you win tonight it will be well deserved as you know Wigan always turn up for the derby with Wane in charge. I think you may just edge it tonight.

Of that list only McIlorum, Farrell and Green would get in to your first choice 17, and Farrell isn't injured. We match that with Amor, Lomax and Laffranchi, all of whom would be in our first choice 17, and we don't yet know whether Swift is back fit so we could add him too, and he would be in our first choice 17.

Wane's talking garbage as usual and we all knew he was. But that's ok because if we win then neither Wane nor the Sky crew can make injuries as the excuse for you lot losing.

Out of our likely 17 tonight Sarginson, Williams, Hughes, James, Doran and Dudson are not first choice. They would be replaced with Thornley or Goulding(at least one of these would start they are squad no's 3 & 4), McIlorum, Farrell, Clubb, Green and Pettybourne.

It's not the worst side we've ever fielded but it's not a strong Wigan team.

Quite common to hear coaches speak of out-enthusing the opposition. Out-excusing the opposition seems to be the order of the day on here

Funny that when compared to some of the comments on the Gelling thread on your board, such as:

"I really like Gelling, I'm made up he's getting his chance. It does leave me wondering where this leaves Goulding though with Gelling and Sarginson seemingly nailing the centre spots."

You've barely got any more injuries than Saints.

FWIW (can't be bothered replying to you all individually, Wigans strongest 17 on paper would be:

Bowen
Charnley
Goulding/Thornley
Gelling
Burgess
Green
Smith
Taylor
McIlorum
Flower
Farrell
Tomkins
O'Loughlin

Bateman
Clubb
Pettybourne
Hampshire

That's 9/17 of those unavailable tonight.

Jack Hughes, Gil Dudson and Sam Powell would not make the team over any of those players, Sarginson possibly but he hasn't nailed down a particular position as of yet as others seem to be edging him out in each one.

Safe trip over.

How good was Anthony Gelling tonight? Lol...

From Wire fan- great performance. To be honest I can't stand stains but great performance. The forwards stood up tonight as the powerful set you have on paper. Thought Mose Masoe is worth the admission fee alone. Really great game to watch as a neutral. Just looking forward to the next game- to level off us tonking you at Manchester and you tonking us at home.

From a Wire point of view.

I hate to say it, but gelling must be one of the worst players ever to play for the goons, he's worse than doc Murray, and tonight he was just one total calamity. I salute him for his match winning performance!