I think Brown might go. We've been pretty dire for weeks now. Today we didn't respect the ball, threw stupid passes and had poor discpline which Warrington capitalised on. Simple as that really, too many passengers and average players in that team.

Maybe what Saints need to do is start focusing on developing their youth players, look at Warrington with Rhys and Ben Evans, Ormsby, Laithwaite plus talented youth from other clubs like Russell. These players have the passion in their team that you are looking for - you can't just buy big names and expect success. We tried that for years and there was a guy on our forum called Rogues somebody who always told us that we had to start bringing through our youth and it seems like his way was proved right today. Saints need to start following the way of Rogues else they are just going to stay forever in the shadow of their local neighbours.

Sally. Can I please ask you never to predict a comfortable Wigan win?

How many times do I need to tell most of you on here that we are not a good team? I was saying this even when we scraped wins against Wakefield, Cas, Hudds and even when we was winning.

I could see that our pack is soft as *hit, the centres are average at best and we totally and utterly rely on Walsh in attack.

The backrows are to small and woeful with the ball.

Our defence is worse than last year. Anyone who moves the ball wide will kill us. Anyone who plays down the middle will slaughter us.


When most on here was jizzing in their pants how good we are, I wasn't agreeing and get shot down for it.

I hope people can see now, we are not a top 4 team. If we make the top 4 it will be a massive achivement for this current squad.

Nathan has got it sussed. www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/4041

Nathan has got it sussed. www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/4041

Quote roader="roader"Nathan has got it sussed. www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/4041'" That remains to be seen.

Quote roader="roader"Nathan has got it sussed. www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/4041'" That remains to be seen.

And what a game next Friday,,,Giants at Langtree....If Saint lose that one he could be on his bike....

Sounds as though all is not well in the camp, Brown seems to isolating himself from whatever issues are going on within the club in a similar fashion when he was with the Giants.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/221327508 ... 9&_rdr#_=_ Here is Wellen's post match interview. The clue is in what he 'doesn't' say!

https://m.facebook.com/groups/221327508 ... 9&_rdr#_=_ Here is Wellen's post match interview. The clue is in what he 'doesn't' say!

I'm not sure what happened at the Giants but problems involving Kevin Brown were reported. Nathan Brown was fired after all and by all accounts, based on what Nathan Brown has said, he left under a cloud of some kind but they had been on something like a nine game losing streak by the time he was finally sacked.

Haven't felt like this after a game for a while. I can accept defeats and I can accept mistakes, but what I can't accept is a lack of heart, urgency and aggression. People would give their left arm to play for this club. There's a standard that needs to be reached when the players pull on that shirt. I don't care who we are playing. No doubt people will say it's the easy option, but I thought the attitude shown was atrocious at times today. That first-half was a complete and utter embarrassment to the club.

There's making mistakes and there's showing a complete and utter lack of common sense. I've managed to go to every game this season, and yes we may have started the season well but we've completely gone away from what we did well early doors. Haven't seen the game back but I thought our line speed was atrocious again. Our pack just aren't aggressive enough. It's all well and good when you're winning by 50 points on a Sunday afternoon, but when your playing against teams who are prepared to get stuck in, get in your face and show a bit of aggression, you're on a hiding to nothing. Another thing that hit me today, when we did break the line, how many times did we just panic and throw the ball away attempting to force it?

All I know is that today's performance was nowhere near the standard that I believe we should be expecting. We may win on Friday but it's doing it consistently and doing it when it counts that really matters. I'm sick and tired of going to these big games only to leave with the same feeling every time. I don't know if it's Brown or what, but that was a pathetic excuse or a performance in my opinion. Players, coaches, those in the club shop, they all need to take a look a look at themselves and step it up a gear.

I'll leave my thoughts on individuals out because we'll be here all day.