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47035_1386433761.gif We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "But Perrys initial offence was BEFORE Hock moved off the mark.
Anyway why are you not discussing the abject Roby performance, the Saints proclaimed "best hooker in the world"?'"
He may not be highly rated by Rogues, but I'll just take the rating that the ozzies give him. He took Leeds apart and Wire too. Even when Cunningham was at his best he could pass stinkers to ground and make runs that gained 2 inches. When Long and Tommy used to play, they were so good as if one had a bad day the other could cover. If they both had good days we where unstoppable.
The problem with the current team is there are less go to players, so if key names have a bad day, then we don't have that cover across the park.
From the line up on Friday
In the pack our key players were Roby, TP and Sia. (I've not seen Sia since the incident so have no idea if he is back at the same level he left and TP was injured the week before)
In the backs our key players are Lance, lomax. Given that Lomax was injured that left Lance to do it all in the backs and that simply is not enough.
The rest of the team can put in performances don't get me wrong, but have any of these players ever took a game by the scruff of the neck and impossed themselves on it. Makinson, Ade, Shenton, Josh Jones, Meli.
Same for our pack, Perry can have a stormer, but it is usually when the rest of the team is too.. Perry, LMS, Flannery, Flanaghan, Clough, Megennis.
I'm not saying they are poor players or even average players, but when it goes wrong to win big games you need someone to take hold of the game, but because we lacked the players to do it then Roby gets marked as not being up to his usual best, where as Cunningham would have had Scully, Jonyt, and a big Ozzie prop to back him up.
I've not heard about Sia or TP from the game, so if they are not back to 100% then that leaves would leave us with Lance and Roby trying to create for us.
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| Great player - nasty piece of work. The kind of player you love if they play for you and despise otherwise - lord knows we've had more than a few of them down the years. At least he doesn't hide or just pick on the little guys like certain players at certain clubs situated over the Pennines. He's undoubtedly a *****house, but we might be better off with a few similar *****houses in the squad right now too.
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| Just looked at this, I can see why some saints fans may be unhappy with the try celebration but saying "once a smack head always a smack head" is probably harsh. Considering what Hock had to do to come back to Super League its quite an achievement he is back at all.
Also Saints fans saying that Wigan folk are idiots and "should ask for a refund of their taxes" because of it probably doesnt paint Saints fans as a whole in a good picture.
A big rivalry is good, but outright nastiness towards other fans should be left in Football.
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| And also, "Wigan is a football town".
"Wrong" doesnt seem to cover the absurdity of this comment.
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| Quote: goobervision "Interestingly there's a decent clip of LMS kicking the ball into the crowd form last year on youtube. I suppose somebody who could be bothered could find you a clip, but let me guess, if it's not on the internet it didn't happen?'"
LMS kicked the ball aimlessly into the air at the SAINTS end of the ground.
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| Quote: JonB95 "LMS kicked the ball aimlessly into the air at the SAINTS end of the ground.
With no care or concern who or what it hit. Dangerous.
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| Quote: FIOS "No he didn't. I saw it on granda reports when I got home, he threw it into the fans at absolutely nobody in particular, since I've been watching rugby league there has been literally hundereds of players do exactly that near where I've been stood, including Wigan players into Wigan fans and nobody had bat an eyelid since.
Screams nothing but sore losers.
Enjoy your Easter
Apparently this post by FOIS got him banned by Saint Simon and it appears he is not the only one who posted pretty innocuous stuff that got a ban as well.
I think you need some new less trigger happy mods with thicker skins.
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| Quote: DaveO "Apparently this post by FOIS got him banned by Saint Simon and it appears he is not the only one who posted pretty innocuous stuff that got a ban as well.
I think you need some new less trigger happy mods with thicker skins.'"
I think it's quite sweet the number of Pies who constantly come on here instead of their own boards. I don't really blame them - if I were on a board full of other Pies I'd want to get the hell out of it and go post somewhere with a bit more class too.
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44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
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| Quote: DaveO "Apparently this post by FOIS got him banned by Saint Simon and it appears he is not the only one who posted pretty innocuous stuff that got a ban as well.
I think you need some new less trigger happy mods with thicker skins.'"
I got banned off the pie munchers board last year for saying - MM is the best Coach in super league but I'm not sure if tomkins is works class yet.
I know you munchers love tomkins but a ban for that!
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| Quote: JonB95 "LMS kicked the ball aimlessly into the air at the SAINTS end of the ground.
Good, now in line with the original poster can you show me a clip of the ball not landing in the crowd. Given the significance of the game there's not going to be a lot of empty seats, and the fact it's in to the Saints fans makes little difference, it could have still hit somebody, given the complaints about Hock that's probably "hit and killed somebody".
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| Quote: DaveO "Apparently this post by FOIS got him banned by Saint Simon and it appears he is not the only one who posted pretty innocuous stuff that got a ban as well.
I think you need some new less trigger happy mods with thicker skins.'"
I think its sweet he whinged to "his" mods as if there was something they could do about it
I put a very clear statement up before the game that i wouldnt stand for any trolling, how is laughing at saints fans not doing so?
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| On the original point of this thread, i personally dont think it was such a bad incident. Hock is many things but he definitely is a very passionate wiganer, he'd just scored probably the match winning try against his derby rivals for his hometown club. I'll allow him some celebrations for that
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44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
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| Quote: Saint Simon "On the original point of this thread, i personally dont think it was such a bad incident. Hock is many things but he definitely is a very passionate wiganer, he'd just scored probably the match winning try against his derby rivals for his hometown club. I'll allow him some celebrations for that'"
Im all for celebrating but he could have caused a riot.
The police, ref and RFL are all involved so it was certainly was a incedent.
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| Quote: St pete "Im all for celebrating but he could have caused a riot.
The police, ref and RFL are all involved so it was certainly was a incedent.'"
Does that not say more about the fans than the player?
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| Quote: Pemps "Does that not say more about the fans than the player?'"
my thoughts exactly. If you can't handle your beer dont drink, if you cant take the banter, dont give it out
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