If we get 10k season ticket holders then we will average 14k easily. With 6k being our previous ST total. We have to remember that just under 4k of tickets cant be sold as they are in the away end.

We have no idea how many will go at Christmas as pressies for a hubby or wife.

Its feasable that in a few years there will be no abilty to walk up to a Saints match except for away end standing only.

To put the numbers into context if you sell out 3 games Then you only need to average 12800. For the rest of the season. Wigan and Warrington will sell out no problems and you would imagine the first game and the widnes game will be close to sell outs. preferably I would take a team with a smaller away following for the first game as Saints alone could sell this one with it being the first. I'd prefer Widnes as a second game to keep the momentum going and with early season optimism from both Saints and widnes fans. Then this too could sell out.

Let's hope so.

Yes and no.

I asked Saints the question about future plans for ticket allocations and the club's dream it would seem would be to have an all season ticket holder stadium. However, I didn't get an answer to my follow up question which was what about newbie supporters? As everyone knows, season ticket holders don't always turn up but their seat is treated as if they are always there. Yet if I want to bring along someone new and all the seats are taken by season ticket holders, I would have nowhere to take the new person.

Hopefully there will always be some space for newbies to just turn up.

The away end will never fill out for every game. There are also the cup games and away games.

Also lets not forget two of the corners are not filled in so there is room to expand if we did reach maximum numbers. Also people do die so you cant hold onto a season ticket for ever.

That solution is a bit too drastic for me!

Your a lot more optimistic than me with regard to season ticket sales.
I'm thinking more in the region of 7-8k for a final figure.
A lot for me depends on how many people are buying terrace season tickets. For these there isnt a mad rush to get one as your viewing spec doesnt matter if you bought one in August or in January. This is of course not the case with seating where its very much a case of those who buy first get the best specs.

With regard to Season ticket sales at Knowsley road. I recall there being some specific figures in the planning documents, and if my memory serves me correct the actual number of sales was nearer to 5k than 6k.

Hopeful more than optimistic 10,000 was a dream case for this first season

I do expect more than 7,000 at present, this is based on us already having 4,000 allocated seat sales and the supposed 1000 corporates added to the standing and family areas etc... but as we've both alluded to terracing is key to decent figures, the only rush is the early bird / renewal pricing options. I would love a counter on the sales to give us an idea in those unallocated regions.

It is interesting if we only had around 5,500 season tickets and still our average attendence was more than double that number (not even including the last season) that is significant walk up given only 2 teams brought huge away support.

I think you are underestimating the desire from some to secure a space on that terracing. It is only one end of the ground and there are a lot of people who want to stand (for example my dad and brother bought a terracing ticket the day they were released).

I think we'll sell a lot of the terracing STs.

I was one of those. I went down to the first forum and would have renewed there and then but for the electricity going off. Two nights later I was back. Relative to the overall capacity, the home standing area is small. A top priority was getting my season ticket renewed to secure my spot!

I am amazed the terracing season tickets haven't sold out.

How do you know they haven't?

Erm..... good question. The lack of publicity and offers for black market purchases for one.

In best Benidorm John mode
Try the Saints web site and see if they are still available for purchase.