Wigan got rid of Long for his off field antics, end of story. That is the truth regardless of how some Saints fans may try to dress it up.

Is that up there with your "two teams still have a chance at Myler" a few days before it was announced depsite the deal being agreed in July.

Oh, we know that. Prigs, the lot of them!


I'm not trying to dress anything up. I'm believing Long's version of events, which includes a lot of guilt for hitting the woman regardless of the circumstances.

Correctamundo. He goes into detail in his book about that incident so i won't spoil it. Long realised when he was shiped to the Widdong that his RL career was in bits (albeit he was putting in good shows for them).

Its quite scary to think how good he could have been had he applied himself in the same way the likes of Farrell,Scully and Rads did.

Yes,
He probably could have been a World Class player. Just imagine if he had Shaun Edwards dedication.

I would argue that Long has been a world class player. He has achieved a vast amount.

I also feel that if you take away the unpredictable, wildman aspect of him, you would lose half the player.

She wasn't a young girl! You make her sound like she was 10! Stop trying to give off that impression. You've done it on the Hull board as well.

Agreed on both counts.

Because it's true.
a 10 year old is a child.

What do you call young?
How old was she?

Was she not young?

How you can defend him is beyond me.

Why don't you read the bloody book?

From page 49By the end of the night, I'd downed five or six pints of lager and a few shots of vodka and I was well drunk. It's hardly legendary boozing but I was only 18 and new to drinking... Anyway, I rolled out of the club at around 1am and staggered into the road and into the path of a car full of girls. Despite my best efforts to charm them by dancing inches from the bonnet, and making gorilla noises, they were blasting the horn for me to get out of the way ...

One of the girls was well drunk and she gave me loads more abuse than her mates. She started pushing me ... I knew I'd been a pain in the ar$e but it was all just high spirits; I wasn't prepared for things to get this nasty with a bunch of girls. Then she totally lost it and began punching me again and again.

Next thing I knew, I instinctively swung back at her. But as I threw the punch, the girl who'd been driving stepped in to drag her mate off me. My fist ended up landing square on her chin and she dropped to the floor ... [/i

Satisfied?

PS: I'm not defending him over the assault. I am defending him against someone turning him into a child beater when he wasn't! It is wrong to imply or state that he had been charged with the assault of a child when he had not.

She was a teenager i.e a young girl, which is what I stated. You said child not me.

Maybe, but not a "child beater" as insinuated.

Ermm