You are Paul Gadd and I claim my £5

Ryles played for the Roosters and they lost,Barry stop wasteing your time with these clowns pete are you sure you dont play with the Blackbrooke U9s.

Very poorly constructed post but Barry McKenzie will attempt to decipher what the hell you are on about and respond accordingly.

Despite what you say all 3 of those pommie players HAVE failed.

Eliss bombed many of the sort of chances to score that if you recreated them under scientific conditions it would be proven that my own grandmother would have scored a 4 pointer. He and his side failed to make the grand final. Thats a failure.

Burgess was billed by Russell Crowe as an unstoppable gladiator from the northern hemisphere... the only thing that could stop him was kryptonite... or if you waved a bar of soap at him. He would power Souths to the premiership. Yet Souths failed to even make the 8 let alone make the grand final.

Burgess was built up to be some god like figure by Crowe simply to increase the amount of memberships sold for Souths. And it worked. Sadly he was found out as just another ordinary pom.

Morely was possibly the best of all 3. But he couldnt tackle. His idea of a low tackle was anywhere below the scalp. Time after time he injured himself through his poor tackling technique...thereby he missed a lot of games. That is if he wasnt suspended. Ultimately this cost him his career with the Roosters and he was shipped back home.

Danny Buderus came to England (I believe) when he was about 30. Danny was a good player for the Knights. But like all the good players... they get old. And injured. And like most Aussies when they get old and injured... they come to superleague. Because the game is easier here. And for a pension. And if rumours are to be believed Danny was on heaps of money at Leeds. Who could blame him for coming out of retirement?

English players dont complain about being homesick when they go to Australia. And if you had ever been there you would see why.

I got homesick when I left there a few years ago. I've lived and worked in quite a few countries since I left. But going home is the best feeling ever. It's not surprising Aussie players get homesick when they move here. It's like a different world compared to Oz.

The reasons Australian Rugby league has been so successful at international level for the last 30+ years or more is due to that comment you made. Australians dont like losing. Thats also why England/GB have been so poor and never won anything of note since before I was born. There is an apathy about the poms. They expect to lose. You only have to look at comments people have made on this very forum about Englands chances in the 4 Nations. You are all expecting to get a flogging. That will possibly be the case. But apathy breeds apathy. The team have forgotten how to win. And whats sad is... hardly anyone seems bothered.


I've always said I feel sorry for English RL Fans. They deserve better.

But I cant see when the better times will come.

Is this the same Ellis that got named Wests best player. Dam must be some crap players at the Tigers if a pommie is the best one of them all. That must be one awful side. www.nrl.com/news/news/newsarticl ... fault.aspx Nice the way you constructed your agrument around the failure of Burgess and Ellis. After all the rest of the players had bugger all to do with it and arent most of them Aussies. RE: Buderus But the money is the problem its given that sort of a contract to an over the hill player that stops talent coming through. Have nothing against NRL players like Matt King who come here but way too many have come here excpecting an easy ride only to run off home. Ryles was a big failure in SL and could not hack the so called weaker game. If you can get a copy or have already read it Kris Radlinski makes a very good point of the condition of Wigan when he got into the sqaud and when he retired. RE: International Your right most of the time England or GB excpects to lose and tbh i have no faith in the coach. If he was not good enough for the Bulls he should be nowhere near international rugby. If Australia did not turn up for a game against England they would still win it.

Is this the same Ellis that got named Wests best player. Dam must be some crap players at the Tigers if a pommie is the best one of them all. That must be one awful side. www.nrl.com/news/news/newsarticl ... fault.aspx Nice the way you constructed your agrument around the failure of Burgess and Ellis. After all the rest of the players had bugger all to do with it and arent most of them Aussies. RE: Buderus But the money is the problem its given that sort of a contract to an over the hill player that stops talent coming through. Have nothing against NRL players like Matt King who come here but way too many have come here excpecting an easy ride only to run off home. Ryles was a big failure in SL and could not hack the so called weaker game. If you can get a copy or have already read it Kris Radlinski makes a very good point of the condition of Wigan when he got into the sqaud and when he retired. RE: International Your right most of the time England or GB excpects to lose and tbh i have no faith in the coach. If he was not good enough for the Bulls he should be nowhere near international rugby. If Australia did not turn up for a game against England they would still win it.

Just picking out one of your points made above...

English players, (or English people in general) are not allowed to get home sick when they move to the other side of the world, but Australians can be ?

We have discussed this many times.

Eliss was voted player of the year...... by other members of Wests Tigers.


Interestingly he wasn't voted best forward of the year.


wonder why

Who was voted best forward of the year?

Cant think now without googling it.

Might have been Robbie Farah.

FPMSL !

Some Australian more than likely who failed just like Ellis did.

Serious question is the Noel Kelly forward of the year voted on or just awarded by a panel?

Shillington?

not sure the Sun cream factor has been invented yet for him to be safe going down under

exactly what i meant by being roughed up, what i mean is when his team are getting beat he spits the dummy, when teams let him run and play he is one of if not the best in superleague but when teams give it him he dosent like it and the grand final made him stand out for what he really is, wigan wound him up and he just dosent like it end of conversation i dont care what you saints fans say cause your so far up his ars* its unreal, we will see how good he is when he plays the aussies!!!